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    Lady of the Lake

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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    We're back in The Enchanted Forest's past where we left off in the season 1 finale. Prince Charming and Snow White are together at last and determined to overthrow King George and The Evil Queen. But King George has hired a new, mysterious General for his army who people call "Leviathan", and he attacks their encampment. In the chaos of the battle, Snow and Charming are separated and she runs straight into the imposing new General, who reveals himself to be Lancelot, a disgraced Knight of The Round Table. He takes her before King George, who surreptitiously poisons her with a curse that suddenly makes her unable to conceive a child--the same curse that once afflicted his own beloved wife. He releases Snow, but Lancelot is unwilling to continue serving the King after what he's done. He stays with her, determined to make amends, as she travels to meet Charming at the secret cabin where they've hidden his mother.

    A squad of King George's soldiers tracks Prince Charming to the cabin. He valiantly defeats them all, but not before his mother is shot with a poisoned crossbow bolt. Snow White and Lancelot arrive just a moment too late. Desperate, they take Charming's mortally wounded mother to Lake Nostos, hoping its healing waters can save her. During the journey, Charming's mother discovers that Snow White has been cursed, and cheers her when she suggests the waters can probably help her, too. But when they arrive at the lake, they find it dry. It turns out that when Charming killed the Siren that protected the lake, he may have also doomed it. They find only a small shell's-worth of water, not enough to heal both women. Charming's mother insists that Snow take it, but Snow White won't hear of it. Lancelot gives the water to Prince Charming's mother, but it doesn't seem to be enough. As her last request, Snow White and Prince Charming are married by Lancelot, who has them drink from a special cup as part of the ceremony. As the two finish exchanging their vows, Charming's mother dies. Snow White helps her beloved Prince grieve, but discovers that her curse seems to have been lifted. Charming's mother only pretended to drink the water and had Lancelot slip it to Snow White so that one day she could have a child--a baby girl.



    In present, post-Curse Fairy Tale Land, Emma and Mary Margaret (Snow White) are trapped in a hole with Cora, who MM knows is as evil as they come. Cora says she only wants to help and Emma thinks it's worth a shot if it means getting back to Henry. Soon they are let out of their cell to meet the leader of the refugees, who turns out to be none other than Lancelot. Mary Margaret insists she has a way for her and Emma to get back home and convinces Lancelot to let them go. He agrees, but insists that they take Mulan, his finest warrior, as their guide. Unbeknownst to them, Aurora tags along as well, looking for vengeance for Phillip. She still blames Emma and Mary Margaret for bringing the Wraith who took his soul. She attacks Mary Margaret later that night, but this is the awesome warrior Snow White we're talking about here. She overwhelms Sleeping Beauty and begins to talk some sense into her when a gunshot rings out. Emma is there, trying to help, but all she's done is call down every ogre in a 5-mile radius. Sure enough, one attacks and it's Mary Margaret, who still knows her way around a bow and arrow it turns out, who takes the giant creature down, saving her daughter.

    The four women finally arrive at Snow White and Prince Charming's castle, which has seen better days. Emma and Mary Margaret enter the nursery, where baby Emma was sent out of this world and into ours, and they find the magic wardrobe that Geppetto once carved out of the last magical tree in The Enchanted Forest. Suddenly Lancelot appears, saying he followed after he heard about the ogre attack and that he was eager to help Emma get back to Henry. The only problem is, Emma never told Lancelot about Henry. Mary Margaret draws her sword and Cora reveals herself. She had killed the real Lancelot long ago and had been posing as him to control the others. She attacks Mary Margaret and Emma, making it clear that she wants the wardrobe for her own means of reaching Storybrooke and getting a reckoning with her daughter, Regina. To save Mary Margaret and prevent Cora from using the wardrobe, Emma lights it on fire. Mulan and Aurora join the fight and it's enough to scare Cora off for now. Mulan realizes they don't have a leader, and she nominates Mary Margaret. But as the four women depart, with the magic wardrobe burned to ash, Cora reappears and scoops some of the ashes into a vial. She's clearly not done with them.

    In Storybrooke, Henry is eager to help find his mom and Mary Margaret, but David (Prince Charming) wants him to stay safe and go to school. Henry's a bit like his mom, so instead he tracks down Jefferson (aka "The Mad Hatter"). He asks Jefferson some questions and gives him some very good advice about reconnecting with his daughter. Then Henry breaks into Regina's (The Evil Queen) office and steals her keys. He uses them to open her secret vault. He's about to uncover some VERY poisonous vipers when David appears to save him. David realizes he needs to spend some time connecting with his grandson. He buys them some wooden swords and promises to show him some moves. After all, he is the grandson of Prince Charming. And as the two practice their swordplay, District Attorney Spencer (King George) looks on menacingly. It seems that old grudge may have traveled to Storybrooke as well.

    Pre-Air Info:





    Season 2/Episode 3 (Lady of the Lake) Official ABC Press Release:

    EMMA AND MARY MARGARET, WITH MULAN, AURORA AND LANCELOT’S HELP, TRY TO FIND A PORTAL BACK TO STORYBROOKE, AND KING GEORGE POISONS SNOW WHITE, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    Barbara Hershey Guest Stars as Cora

    Sebastian Stan (“Gossip Girl,” “Captain America: The First Avenger”) Guest Stars as Jefferson

    Sarah Bolger (“The Tudors”) Guest Stars as Aurora

    Jamie Chung (“Sucker Punch,” “The Hangover Part II”) Guest Stars as Mulan

    Sinqua Walls (“The Secret Life of the American Teenager,” “Teen Wolf”) Guest Stars as Lancelot

    “Lady of the Lake” – Emma and Mary Margaret, with the aid of Mulan, Aurora and brave knight Lancelot, attempt to find a portal that will bring them back to Storybrooke. But a dark force threatens their safe return. And Henry tries to talk Jefferson into reuniting with his daughter. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale land that was, on the eve of meeting Prince Charming’s mother, King George poisons Snow White, and the only antidote lies within the waters of the Lady of the Lake, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, OCTOBER 14 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Barbara Hershey as Cora, Alan Dale as King George, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Sebastian Stan as Jefferson, Gabrielle Rose as Ruth, Sinqua Walls as Lancelot and Alissa Skovbye as Paige.

    ”Lady of the Lake” was written by Andrew Chambliss & Ian Goldberg and directed by Milan Cheylov.


    ***Promo 1 for "Lady of the Lake"



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    Sneak Peek #4



    Promo #2



    ***Cora is revealed...



    ***Snow and Charming's Wedding...








    The official ABC secrets page for this episode can be found here:
    Lady of the Lake Secrets Page

    After a quick recap of some of the highlights of the show and pointing out that there were a lot of 'Mom' moments in this episode, three 'secrets' are listed for our enjoyment:

    When Ruth, Prince Charming's mother, is mortally wounded, Charming suggests that they take her to Lake Nostos and give her some of its magical waters. Fans will remember this as the lake Prince Charming travels to in Episode 113: "What Happened to Frederick". In that episode, he used water from the lake to change Frederick back to a normal man after he had been accidentally turned to gold by King Midas.

    While at the lake, Prince Charming picks up a crown from the dry lakebed. It belonged to the Siren that guarded Lake Nostos. Unfortunately, it seems that when Charming killed her--it was totally self-defense!--the lake dried up.

    Time for another callback! The two-headed Agrabahn Viper that Henry finds in Regina's secret vault is the same venemous snake that The Genie used to kill King Leopold in Episode 111: "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree". No one can say Regina's not an animal lover.

    Finally, a little something for our literary fans. Didn't you guys get enough after all of that Shakespeare last week? Sheesh!

    Those who've read Alfred, Lord Tennyson's poem about the Arthurian legend, The Lady of Shalott, may have recognized Lancelot's line "God, in his mercy, lend her grace."


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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:00 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    Regarding Mulan, I don't think she's in on it, but I think Aurora might be working with/for her even if it isn't with malicious intent.

    She could be tricked into it or Cora could have twisted her into thinking it is the right thing like she tricked young Snow into talking about Daniel. I don't know. Something just isn't right with Aurora.
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:57 pm by Ranna156

    eclectic1 wrote:
    rra615 wrote:question... Cora while posing as Lancelot said that Mulan was his most trusted warrior. Do we think that Mulan knew who it actually was and is working for Cora? Can she not be trusted?

    gr8 question!...in a way, you'd have thought Mulan should have been able to tell the 'difference' in the mannerisms and actions of Lancelot.
    If she was his most trusted...you'd think they were good friends, as well.

    We'll have to see going forward...it sounds like this could be a long journey for the women in FTL.

    No I don't think Mulan is in on it. I really like her...she can lead she can follow she is intelligent and beautiful and can kick some ass. She also comes off as fair and a 'born leader' rather than a power monger. She is a very controlled type of individual with her mind ruling her actions rather than her heart...

    I think she met 'Cora' the first time she met Lance...don't think she ever met the real Lance...also I think Hook might be a potential ship for her...or Lance...but Lance is supposedly dead and he already fell for a woman...so who knows...haha
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:53 pm by Ranna156

    rra615 wrote:at the end of the episode, cora is bottling some dust looking substance... is that the ash from the burned enchanted tree-cupboard?

    yes!

    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:51 pm by rra615

    at the end of the episode, cora is bottling some dust looking substance... is that the ash from the burned enchanted tree-cupboard?
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:02 pm by eclectic1

    rra615 wrote:question... Cora while posing as Lancelot said that Mulan was his most trusted warrior. Do we think that Mulan knew who it actually was and is working for Cora? Can she not be trusted?

    gr8 question!...in a way, you'd have thought Mulan should have been able to tell the 'difference' in the mannerisms and actions of Lancelot.
    If she was his most trusted...you'd think they were good friends, as well.

    We'll have to see going forward...it sounds like this could be a long journey for the women in FTL.

    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:47 pm by rra615

    question... Cora while posing as Lancelot said that Mulan was his most trusted warrior. Do we think that Mulan knew who it actually was and is working for Cora? Can she not be trusted?
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:42 pm by eclectic1

    LZenOUT wrote:All that is left of Lake Nostos is now underground and you need a well to access it. That's the easiest explanation. Perhaps we'll learn of some intervention from other sources later on, but until then, this is how it plays in my mind.

    I have to agree, LZ... Smile
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:14 pm by LZenOUT

    All that is left of Lake Nostos is now underground and you need a well to access it. That's the easiest explanation. Perhaps we'll learn of some intervention from other sources later on, but until then, this is how it plays in my mind.
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:20 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    rra615 wrote:you're right, @obsessed. it doesn't make sense of why it'd be dry.

    the only thing i can think of is if someone wanted rose to die so they used magic to dry it up when they took her there, then waited for PC Snow Lancelot and Rose to leave to fill it back up.

    another thing i can think of is since the lady was killed by PC, the lake dried up?

    I think it dried up because PC killed the siren, like you said. PC said something like that in the ep. So unless he's mistaken and the water moved (?) I think that's one for the observation/question list.

    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:14 pm by rra615

    you're right, @obsessed. it doesn't make sense of why it'd be dry.

    the only thing i can think of is if someone wanted rose to die so they used magic to dry it up when they took her there, then waited for PC Snow Lancelot and Rose to leave to fill it back up.

    another thing i can think of is since the lady was killed by PC, the lake dried up?
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:48 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    rra615 wrote:
    Ranna156 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second, am I missing a 'duh' here?

    Lake Nostos was dried up. Well then how can the waters from it be flowing in SB? Or are we going with that the waters somehow went there?

    Oh - and we all saw the well from the woods in front of PC's mom's cottage, yes?

    believe so on the well...

    that is what I am thinking about Nostos...somehow Rump managed to get some of that water before it all dried up and hopefully its in SB...or that was the end of the lake...

    isn't the well in storybrooke supposed to lead to the lake or share the same water or something? isn't that why august took emma there to drink the water?
    Yes that's why but since they said that the lake was dry how could the well lead to the lake's waters? Does that make sense? I can't quite phrase this well for some reason.

    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:40 am by rra615

    Ranna156 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second, am I missing a 'duh' here?

    Lake Nostos was dried up. Well then how can the waters from it be flowing in SB? Or are we going with that the waters somehow went there?

    Oh - and we all saw the well from the woods in front of PC's mom's cottage, yes?

    believe so on the well...

    that is what I am thinking about Nostos...somehow Rump managed to get some of that water before it all dried up and hopefully its in SB...or that was the end of the lake...

    isn't the well in storybrooke supposed to lead to the lake or share the same water or something? isn't that why august took emma there to drink the water?
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:35 am by Ranna156

    so Cora is wearing the exact same outfit as when she was pushed through the looking glass...like 40+ years ago...something to that?
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:53 am by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second, am I missing a 'duh' here?

    Lake Nostos was dried up. Well then how can the waters from it be flowing in SB? Or are we going with that the waters somehow went there?

    Oh - and we all saw the well from the woods in front of PC's mom's cottage, yes?

    believe so on the well...

    that is what I am thinking about Nostos...somehow Rump managed to get some of that water before it all dried up and hopefully its in SB...or that was the end of the lake...
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    Post on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:34 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second, am I missing a 'duh' here?

    Lake Nostos was dried up. Well then how can the waters from it be flowing in SB? Or are we going with that the waters somehow went there?

    Oh - and we all saw the well from the woods in front of PC's mom's cottage, yes?
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:42 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan

    A bit about the mythology of the Leviathan. I'd stick mostly to the Hebrew biblical passages at the top. The long and short of it is he's one indestructible dude except from God. Of course it's just a nickname but they don't pick them by accident. So it adds to the speculation that Cora didn't kill him.
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:40 pm by Ranna156

    LZenOUT wrote:
    cuddlyasatiger wrote:...I want to know why Charming poured the "just one sip" out of the shell into his flask/canteen. If there's so little water why would you pour it from one container to another?
    It was probably a plot device. If he hadn't, he'd have been able to clearly see her not drink it. So, they had to make a way for mom to act like she drank it but not do so.

    That is what I think too...they had to work some way in so that Lance could put it in Snow's cup.

    Also maybe he would have tripped or something on his way to Ruth...Safer to put it into the flask with a cap! Wink
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:38 pm by Ranna156

    eclectic1 wrote:
    rra615 wrote:i don't think lancelot is really dead...didn't someone say we see him in SB? unless cora transforms herself into lancelot if she comes to SB. I HATE CORA, by the way haha

    I agree...I think the writers have pointed out that if you SEE someone die-pretty much could say they are dead.

    If you DONT see them die... Cool Cool Cool

    I think Lancelot is alive as well!

    AGREE! ALthough does poofing a FGM or turning someone into a rose count as seeing someone die? haha
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:31 pm by eclectic1

    rra615 wrote:i don't think lancelot is really dead...didn't someone say we see him in SB? unless cora transforms herself into lancelot if she comes to SB. I HATE CORA, by the way haha

    I agree...I think the writers have pointed out that if you SEE someone die-pretty much could say they are dead.

    If you DONT see them die... Cool Cool Cool

    I think Lancelot is alive as well!
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:13 pm by LZenOUT

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:...I want to know why Charming poured the "just one sip" out of the shell into his flask/canteen. If there's so little water why would you pour it from one container to another?
    It was probably a plot device. If he hadn't, he'd have been able to clearly see her not drink it. So, they had to make a way for mom to act like she drank it but not do so.
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:51 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:
    Ranna156 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:And not for nothing but couldn't Lancelot have found another shell? scratch

    I think Ruth wanted to just enjoy her last moments instead of trying to find something that may or may not be found.

    And are there sea shells in lakes?

    I suppose there could be fresh water crustaceans. I'd Google and tell you but... that would be waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much effort LOL

    Tennessee is full of sea shells that look a lot like Lance's. And we are definitely not a 'coastal' state but we have a lot of rivers and lakes.

    I want to know why Charming poured the "just one sip" out of the shell into his flask/canteen. If there's so little water why would you pour it from one container to another?

    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:06 pm by rra615

    i don't think lancelot is really dead...didn't someone say we see him in SB? unless cora transforms herself into lancelot if she comes to SB. I HATE CORA, by the way haha
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:57 am by Ranna156

    Shekinel wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Guinevre and Arthur aren't true loves- Lance and Guin are. So PC could still be Arthur.

    I also wondered about Snow's shooting and how does she know how to kill ogres?

    Its obvious!She lived in the woods hiding! she is from FTL! No wonder she knows about the dangers of her land!! They are pretty big and scary i suppose almost every one form ftl knows about ogres!! the same way she kew about trolls! AND She was a thief!! Also we have seen her before with a bow and arrow in season 1!! Smile

    I agree about knowing about Ogres since she is from there...i imagine it is common knowledge.
    And yes she did live in the woods...but someone still had to teach her...i am just wondering where she learned...was it Red or Granny who taught her? Or was this something she learned growing up in a palace around soldiers...haha
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:53 am by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Guinevre and Arthur aren't true loves- Lance and Guin are. So PC could still be Arthur.

    I also wondered about Snow's shooting and how does she know how to kill ogres?

    I think that depends on the version of the story doesn't it?
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:51 am by Ranna156

    Shekinel wrote:the way SW looks one last time at what used to be the nursery room... she remembered it so beautiful, all the moments she wanted to have but didn't ...that was really touching!!

    I agree!

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