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    The Doctor

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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    With her mother, Cora, banished to another land and the spell book now in her hands (see Episode 202 – “We Are Both”), Regina has begun studying magic under Rumplestiltskin. The latest lesson is taking out a victim’s heart so that you can control their will. But as Rumplestiltskin instructs Regina to tear out a horse’s heart and crush it, she can’t bring herself to do it. She can’t help but remember how her mother tore out her lover, Daniel’s, heart and killed him in the same way. She can’t bear to use magic for evil the way her mother did. Rumplestiltskin feels like his time is being wasted, but Regina is eager to continue her training so that she can bring Daniel back from the dead. When she begs Rumple for more lessons, she crosses paths with Jefferson, a portal jumper who might know someone who can do exactly what she’s looking for.

    Word has begun to spread around town that the other worlds weren’t actually destroyed by The Dark Curse. Someone who’s particularly interested is Dr. Whale, who bursts into Regina’s therapy session with Dr. Hopper and demands she send him back. She says she couldn’t even if she wanted to, but clearly that’s not good enough for the doctor. After therapy, Regina thinks she sees none other than her beloved Daniel staring at her on a street corner. Dazed, she looks for Dr. Whale in the hospital and finds him there, his arm torn off, moaning about unleashing a monster. Did he really bring Daniel back from the dead in Storybrooke?

    In Fairy Tale Land, Jefferson takes Regina to meet a man from another land, a doctor, who we recognize as Dr. Whale. He claims to be able to revive the dead, but he needs an enchanted heart, like one plucked from a person’s chest the way Rumplestiltskin showed Regina how to do, to complete his operation. Regina takes the doctor and Jefferson to her mother’s vault which is full of throbbing, enchanted hearts stolen from poor souls all over the land. They choose one and the doctor sets to work. Regina had used a spell to preserve Daniel’s body and thing appear to be going well. Lightning strikes the doctor’s tent, but he soon emerges, sadly admitting that he failed. Regina, heartbroken, returns to Rumplestiltskin and eagerly plucks the heart from another student’s chest, crushing it. She’s ready for her next lesson.

    Sometime later, we see Rumplestiltskin meeting with the doctor and Jefferson to conclude their business. The whole thing was a ruse to get Regina beyond her heartbreak so that she could continue her training. The doctor leaves for his world with an enchanted heart as payment, convinced his science is superior to magic and that his process for reviving the dead will indeed work to bring his brother back to life.

    Regina discovers that Dr. Whale had stolen a heart from her own vault and used it to bring Daniel back to life, but Daniel seems to be insane and incredibly strong. Being a stable boy, he goes to the Storybrooke stables where Henry is meeting his new horse. David and Regina race there to find the boy being attacked. David wants to put Daniel down again, but Regina insists that her once-dead fiancé will listen to her. At first he tries to strangle her, but slowly the real Daniel emerges, only to confess that he is in terrible pain and to beg that Regina let him go. Tearfully, she does, using magic to disintegrate him. For the second time, she has lost the love of her life.

    In present day Fairy Tale Land, Emma, Mary Margaret, Mulan and Aurora return to the island encampment to find that it’s been attacked by Cora. They find a lone survivor, none other than Captain Killian Jones aka Hook. Immediately Emma is suspicious and ties him to a tree. She whistles to summon some ogres and suggest he tell the truth if he wants to live. He is left with no choice but to reveal the ruse, that Cora wanted him to get close to them so he could find out more about Storybrooke. He offers to help them get there the same way he planned to help Cora, so long as he gets revenge on Rumplestiltskin. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of objections from any of the four Princesses.

    Then we flash not to Fairy Tale Land, but to another world, where the doctor and his assistant work in a gloomy castle laboratory. As the doctor places the enchanted heart into the body on the table before him, lightning strikes and the creature’s stitched-together hand begins to move. It’s alive! And we realize this is Dr. Victor Frankenstein who will somehow be transported to Storybrooke as Dr. Whale! And in Storybrooke, Dr. Whale drags his severed arm to Mr. Gold’s pawnshop for help. The price, this time, is relatively cheap. Rumplestiltskin merely asks that he admit he needs magic. When the doctor does, his arm magically grows back. It seems the rivalry between science and magic isn’t quite done yet.

    Pre-Air Info:





    ***above photos courtesy of ABC Publicity and shared by Spoiler TV

    Per Matt Mitovich/TV Line: "It's probably about who Doctor Whale really is"

    ***thx to 'oncenews'
    OFFICIAL ABC PRESS RELEASE:

    REGINA BELIEVES SHE’S SEEN A GHOST FROM HER PAST IN STORYBROOKE, MARY MARGARET AND EMMA BECOME SUSPICIOUS OF A LONE SURVIVOR FROM AN OGRE MASSACRE, AND REGINA FINDS HERSELF FAILING AT LEARING THE DARK ARTS FROM A DARK MASTER, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    “The Doctor” – While Regina continues to try and stop using her magic in an attempt to win back Henry’s affections, she begins seeing what she believes is a ghost from her past; and when Mary Margaret and Emma discover a lone survivor from an ogre massacre, Emma begins to question whether or not he’s telling the truth. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, Regina finds herself failing at learning the dark arts from a dark master because something from her past is preventing her from using her magic for evil, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, OCTOBER 28 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as
Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Raphael Sbarge as Archie Hopper/Jiminy Cricket, David Anders as Dr. Whale, Colin O’Donoghue as Killian Jones/Hook, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Noah Bean as man, Sebastian Stan as Jefferson, Yurij Kis as assistant and Paula Giroday as Trish.

    ”The Doctor” was written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz and directed by Paul Edwards.




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    Regina Learns Magic...



    Regina and her true Love...






    The official ABC secrets page for this episode can be found here:
    The Doctor Secrets Page

    Portal jumpers, am I right? Nothing but trouble, those guys. Jefferson shows up at Rumplestiltskin's workshop with a crystal ball and gives him some information about magic slippers that can transport someone between magical and non-magical worlds. Both of those items can be found in L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. That's the second Oz reference this season. Think we'll get to visit sometime soon?

    Keeping it literary, when Emma is interrogating Captain Hook, she says "So much for fortune favoring the brave,". That's a reference to the Latin “AVDENTES FORTVNA IVVAT”, allegedly the last word of Pliny the Elder as he left the docks at Pompeii to rescue people from the eruption of Vesuvius in 79, quoted in Virgil’s Aeneid.


    Last edited by LZenOUT on Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:35 pm; edited 10 times in total (Reason for editing : added ABC secrets)
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:10 pm by LZenOUT

    eclectic1 wrote:
    Ranna156 wrote:Do we even know anything about the assistant? Other than the actor who plays him?

    Spoiler:
    I think you might be getting confused with the other assistant with Rump...The Dove...but maybe...i can't remember who they cast to play the Dove but that storyline was cut i believe...

    Ranna...you do know this is the 'spoiler area'... Wink Smile

    (couldnt resist!) Wink
    LMAO
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:10 pm by Ranna156

    yeah...i just forgot where i was! haha...was talking about an episode and stuff didn't click fast enough! Wink
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:05 pm by eclectic1

    Ranna156 wrote:Do we even know anything about the assistant? Other than the actor who plays him?

    Spoiler:
    I think you might be getting confused with the other assistant with Rump...The Dove...but maybe...i can't remember who they cast to play the Dove but that storyline was cut i believe...

    Ranna...you do know this is the 'spoiler area'... Wink Smile

    (couldnt resist!) Wink
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:00 pm by Ranna156

    Do we even know anything about the assistant? Other than the actor who plays him?

    Spoiler:
    I think you might be getting confused with the other assistant with Rump...The Dove...but maybe...i can't remember who they cast to play the Dove but that storyline was cut i believe...
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:53 pm by eclectic1



    playing devils advocate here, Cuddly... Wink Cool

    If you think that's the Assistant with Jeff in the below photo shot...do you think that is the Assistant in this shot as well?

    I'm thinking it's the same person(note the long coat jacket/button pattern)here with Regina and that Jeff is the person we can't quite make out last on the steps. Why would the Assistant be with Regina? Cool

    I'm pretty certain this photo is from "The Doctor" episode as well...

    Why these 2 guys would be with both Regina AND Rump...THAT remains a mystery...at least until this episode airs!!!! lol!
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:52 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    eclectic1 wrote:
    cuddlyasatiger wrote:I'm pretty sure that guy running with Jeff is NOT Dr. Whale. He looks more like the Assistant (Yurij Kis).


    I dont know...this could actually be FTL due to Rump's attire at the time...yet Jeff's attire looks SB(did he find a portal?)...ugh!!!

    I'm still sticking with Dr Whale's real self...Dr Frankenstein! Wink Cool

    Yea I'm sure it's FTL (think they're running through the EF), I just think the guy looks more like Assistant than Dr. Whale.
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:43 pm by eclectic1

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:I'm pretty sure that guy running with Jeff is NOT Dr. Whale. He looks more like the Assistant (Yurij Kis).


    I dont know...this could actually be FTL due to Rump's attire at the time...yet Jeff's attire looks SB(did he find a portal?)...ugh!!!

    I'm still sticking with Dr Whale's real self...Dr Frankenstein! Wink Cool
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:52 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    I'm pretty sure that guy running with Jeff is NOT Dr. Whale. He looks more like the Assistant (Yurij Kis).

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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:50 am by Ranna156

    mmm maybe but I ddon't think she does...I think during the curse she had all the power and that is why he did her bidding...everyone did...but the way he was when the curse was broken doesn't appear that she would have his heart to me...
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:37 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Ranna156 wrote:lol...maybe they are running from Daniel - aka the Frankenstein monster!!!!

    Has it been confirmed that the guy with a mowhawk is Whale?
    I do wonder if Reg recruits Whale/Dr. F to revive Daniel. He somehow fails, and then she takes his heart?

    I really think she takes his heart.
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:54 am by Ranna156

    looks like he IS holding a doctors bag!
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:52 am by Ranna156

    lol...maybe they are running from Daniel - aka the Frankenstein monster!!!!

    Has it been confirmed that the guy with a mowhawk is Whale?
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    Post on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:41 am by eclectic1

    I think I'm most anxious for this episode for 2 reasons:

    1) We're going to find out WHO Dr Whale really is and... Smile

    2) This picture should be explained-



    ...AND THIS SCARES ME!!!
    Not sure what Jeff is doing hanging around Rump and "Dr Whale's" true character.

    ...especially if it turns out to be Dr Frankenstein!!! Shocked Neutral

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