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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    With her mother, Cora, banished to another land and the spell book now in her hands (see Episode 202 – “We Are Both”), Regina has begun studying magic under Rumplestiltskin. The latest lesson is taking out a victim’s heart so that you can control their will. But as Rumplestiltskin instructs Regina to tear out a horse’s heart and crush it, she can’t bring herself to do it. She can’t help but remember how her mother tore out her lover, Daniel’s, heart and killed him in the same way. She can’t bear to use magic for evil the way her mother did. Rumplestiltskin feels like his time is being wasted, but Regina is eager to continue her training so that she can bring Daniel back from the dead. When she begs Rumple for more lessons, she crosses paths with Jefferson, a portal jumper who might know someone who can do exactly what she’s looking for.

    Word has begun to spread around town that the other worlds weren’t actually destroyed by The Dark Curse. Someone who’s particularly interested is Dr. Whale, who bursts into Regina’s therapy session with Dr. Hopper and demands she send him back. She says she couldn’t even if she wanted to, but clearly that’s not good enough for the doctor. After therapy, Regina thinks she sees none other than her beloved Daniel staring at her on a street corner. Dazed, she looks for Dr. Whale in the hospital and finds him there, his arm torn off, moaning about unleashing a monster. Did he really bring Daniel back from the dead in Storybrooke?

    In Fairy Tale Land, Jefferson takes Regina to meet a man from another land, a doctor, who we recognize as Dr. Whale. He claims to be able to revive the dead, but he needs an enchanted heart, like one plucked from a person’s chest the way Rumplestiltskin showed Regina how to do, to complete his operation. Regina takes the doctor and Jefferson to her mother’s vault which is full of throbbing, enchanted hearts stolen from poor souls all over the land. They choose one and the doctor sets to work. Regina had used a spell to preserve Daniel’s body and thing appear to be going well. Lightning strikes the doctor’s tent, but he soon emerges, sadly admitting that he failed. Regina, heartbroken, returns to Rumplestiltskin and eagerly plucks the heart from another student’s chest, crushing it. She’s ready for her next lesson.

    Sometime later, we see Rumplestiltskin meeting with the doctor and Jefferson to conclude their business. The whole thing was a ruse to get Regina beyond her heartbreak so that she could continue her training. The doctor leaves for his world with an enchanted heart as payment, convinced his science is superior to magic and that his process for reviving the dead will indeed work to bring his brother back to life.

    Regina discovers that Dr. Whale had stolen a heart from her own vault and used it to bring Daniel back to life, but Daniel seems to be insane and incredibly strong. Being a stable boy, he goes to the Storybrooke stables where Henry is meeting his new horse. David and Regina race there to find the boy being attacked. David wants to put Daniel down again, but Regina insists that her once-dead fiancé will listen to her. At first he tries to strangle her, but slowly the real Daniel emerges, only to confess that he is in terrible pain and to beg that Regina let him go. Tearfully, she does, using magic to disintegrate him. For the second time, she has lost the love of her life.

    In present day Fairy Tale Land, Emma, Mary Margaret, Mulan and Aurora return to the island encampment to find that it’s been attacked by Cora. They find a lone survivor, none other than Captain Killian Jones aka Hook. Immediately Emma is suspicious and ties him to a tree. She whistles to summon some ogres and suggest he tell the truth if he wants to live. He is left with no choice but to reveal the ruse, that Cora wanted him to get close to them so he could find out more about Storybrooke. He offers to help them get there the same way he planned to help Cora, so long as he gets revenge on Rumplestiltskin. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of objections from any of the four Princesses.

    Then we flash not to Fairy Tale Land, but to another world, where the doctor and his assistant work in a gloomy castle laboratory. As the doctor places the enchanted heart into the body on the table before him, lightning strikes and the creature’s stitched-together hand begins to move. It’s alive! And we realize this is Dr. Victor Frankenstein who will somehow be transported to Storybrooke as Dr. Whale! And in Storybrooke, Dr. Whale drags his severed arm to Mr. Gold’s pawnshop for help. The price, this time, is relatively cheap. Rumplestiltskin merely asks that he admit he needs magic. When the doctor does, his arm magically grows back. It seems the rivalry between science and magic isn’t quite done yet.

    Pre-Air Info:





    ***above photos courtesy of ABC Publicity and shared by Spoiler TV

    Per Matt Mitovich/TV Line: "It's probably about who Doctor Whale really is"

    ***thx to 'oncenews'
    OFFICIAL ABC PRESS RELEASE:

    REGINA BELIEVES SHE’S SEEN A GHOST FROM HER PAST IN STORYBROOKE, MARY MARGARET AND EMMA BECOME SUSPICIOUS OF A LONE SURVIVOR FROM AN OGRE MASSACRE, AND REGINA FINDS HERSELF FAILING AT LEARING THE DARK ARTS FROM A DARK MASTER, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    “The Doctor” – While Regina continues to try and stop using her magic in an attempt to win back Henry’s affections, she begins seeing what she believes is a ghost from her past; and when Mary Margaret and Emma discover a lone survivor from an ogre massacre, Emma begins to question whether or not he’s telling the truth. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, Regina finds herself failing at learning the dark arts from a dark master because something from her past is preventing her from using her magic for evil, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, OCTOBER 28 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as
Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Raphael Sbarge as Archie Hopper/Jiminy Cricket, David Anders as Dr. Whale, Colin O’Donoghue as Killian Jones/Hook, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Noah Bean as man, Sebastian Stan as Jefferson, Yurij Kis as assistant and Paula Giroday as Trish.

    ”The Doctor” was written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz and directed by Paul Edwards.




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    Sneak Peek #3



    Regina Learns Magic...



    Regina and her true Love...






    The official ABC secrets page for this episode can be found here:
    The Doctor Secrets Page

    Portal jumpers, am I right? Nothing but trouble, those guys. Jefferson shows up at Rumplestiltskin's workshop with a crystal ball and gives him some information about magic slippers that can transport someone between magical and non-magical worlds. Both of those items can be found in L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. That's the second Oz reference this season. Think we'll get to visit sometime soon?

    Keeping it literary, when Emma is interrogating Captain Hook, she says "So much for fortune favoring the brave,". That's a reference to the Latin “AVDENTES FORTVNA IVVAT”, allegedly the last word of Pliny the Elder as he left the docks at Pompeii to rescue people from the eruption of Vesuvius in 79, quoted in Virgil’s Aeneid.


    Last edited by LZenOUT on Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:35 pm; edited 10 times in total (Reason for editing : added ABC secrets)
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    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:33 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    Ranna156 wrote:
    kami808 wrote:
    Maybe doing it cleanly takes more time and effort and Cora had to kill everyone quickly. Just a theory Smile

    That or she wanted it to be obvious it was her work since they thought it was an ogre attack at first...maybe in the hopes they would trust Hook more readily...

    My gut is it was more of a pure F U by Cora.
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:00 pm by Ranna156

    kami808 wrote:
    Maybe doing it cleanly takes more time and effort and Cora had to kill everyone quickly. Just a theory Smile

    That or she wanted it to be obvious it was her work since they thought it was an ogre attack at first...maybe in the hopes they would trust Hook more readily...
    kami808

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:52 pm by kami808

    Ranna156 wrote:
    kami808 wrote:
    Ranna156 wrote:so far every time we have seen a heart ripped out it doesn't leave a mark...yet Cora left marks when she ripped out the 'survivors' hearts...and it also was a GLARING sign that it was her work...so i wonder why now all of a sudden the heart ripping is leaving marks, people are bleeding, and clothing is torn...

    Correct me if i'm wrong, but can't the heart-ripper decide whether to do it cleanly or in a messy way? I think that's what Rumple explained to Regina when he was training her. At least that's my explanation of it.

    Possibly...that would make sense!

    Maybe doing it cleanly takes more time and effort and Cora had to kill everyone quickly. Just a theory Smile
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:44 pm by Ranna156

    kami808 wrote:
    Ranna156 wrote:so far every time we have seen a heart ripped out it doesn't leave a mark...yet Cora left marks when she ripped out the 'survivors' hearts...and it also was a GLARING sign that it was her work...so i wonder why now all of a sudden the heart ripping is leaving marks, people are bleeding, and clothing is torn...

    Correct me if i'm wrong, but can't the heart-ripper decide whether to do it cleanly or in a messy way? I think that's what Rumple explained to Regina when he was training her. At least that's my explanation of it.

    Possibly...that would make sense!
    kami808

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:38 pm by kami808

    Ranna156 wrote:so far every time we have seen a heart ripped out it doesn't leave a mark...yet Cora left marks when she ripped out the 'survivors' hearts...and it also was a GLARING sign that it was her work...so i wonder why now all of a sudden the heart ripping is leaving marks, people are bleeding, and clothing is torn...

    Correct me if i'm wrong, but can't the heart-ripper decide whether to do it cleanly or in a messy way? I think that's what Rumple explained to Regina when he was training her. At least that's my explanation of it.
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:55 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Ranna156 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Can anyone tell what Rumpel was working on when Frank walked into his shop to get his arm reattached? It looked like a gold compass but I may just think that because Emma and Hook are about to go up the beanstalk looking for one.

    No i couldn't tell...

    As for Whale being the wiz as well...i think its possible but don't think so. They said the slippers had already been taken to a different land...Oz is colorful...where ever Frank is from its black & white...so I thought perhaps that maybe he makes his world colorful (as it might really be Oz) through science...but the timing is off since by the time the slippers leave Oz, that world is colorful...so i think it is just a reference...

    I'm inclined to agree.
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:22 am by Ranna156

    so far every time we have seen a heart ripped out it doesn't leave a mark...yet Cora left marks when she ripped out the 'survivors' hearts...and it also was a GLARING sign that it was her work...so i wonder why now all of a sudden the heart ripping is leaving marks, people are bleeding, and clothing is torn...
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:19 am by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Can anyone tell what Rumpel was working on when Frank walked into his shop to get his arm reattached? It looked like a gold compass but I may just think that because Emma and Hook are about to go up the beanstalk looking for one.

    No i couldn't tell...

    As for Whale being the wiz as well...i think its possible but don't think so. They said the slippers had already been taken to a different land...Oz is colorful...where ever Frank is from its black & white...so I thought perhaps that maybe he makes his world colorful (as it might really be Oz) through science...but the timing is off since by the time the slippers leave Oz, that world is colorful...so i think it is just a reference...
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:55 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Can anyone tell what Rumpel was working on when Frank walked into his shop to get his arm reattached? It looked like a gold compass but I may just think that because Emma and Hook are about to go up the beanstalk looking for one.
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:34 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    And he's searching for a heart...
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:33 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    I just noticed something:

    When Regina walks into Whale's clinic there's a clock she passes. The time? 4:20.

    Then it goes to Jeff and Reg going to meet Frank -

    Regina: "Where is he this wizard....?"

    Jeff: "Indeed and off we shall go to meet him."

    Sound familiar? We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz..."


    Do you think they'll tie it all in and make Whale Oz? Oz did have interest in science. Or do you think they were just referencing the Oz story again like with the slippers?
    LZenOUT

    Post Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:11 pm by LZenOUT

    I'm thinking it works like the OZ ball (sees the present) since I believe the slippers were an OZ reference.
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:57 am by Ranna156

    LZenOUT wrote:
    Ranna156 wrote:did anyone catch what Rumple said when Jefferson brought him that bowl. I could barely understand that whole conversation...something about stipends?
    Slippers. And it was a ball. Smile

    haha...i figured the ball part from reading all the writeups in eclectics spoilers! Looked kind of small from what I remember of the 'crystal ball'...haha...maybe I will actually catch it this year (its been many years since i have seen it)...doesn't Oz usually air in November?

    Also I can't remember if the crystal ball showed the future or if it was more like Regina's mirror...will show you the present...
    LZenOUT

    Post Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:14 am by LZenOUT

    Ranna156 wrote:did anyone catch what Rumple said when Jefferson brought him that bowl. I could barely understand that whole conversation...something about stipends?
    Slippers. And it was a ball. Smile
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:00 am by Ranna156

    One Big error is that he/she calls the UNICORN a horse...too bad that you can't even go to abc anymore to get the correct info...

    sorry just MORE than a little irritated at the moment since all the boards mod does on that site is delete my posts....grrrr
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:58 pm by Ranna156

    I have to say whoever is doing these ABC recaps isn't as good as Brian Garcia was...
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:16 am by Ranna156

    did anyone catch what Rumple said when Jefferson brought him that bowl. I could barely understand that whole conversation...something about stipends?
    Ranna156

    Post Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:29 pm by Ranna156

    he was awesome!

    definitely think we will see A LOT more of him! Wish they would make him a main!!!!
    Shekinel

    Post Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:26 pm by Shekinel

    I have to agree with you. I totally loved Sebastian Stan in this episode!
    eclectic1

    Post Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:24 pm by eclectic1

    Truly love this episode!!! The whole ultra unique storyline...so not FTL!!! And the fact that Jefferson AND Hook were in the same episode!!! lol!

    That shot of Jeff w/the hat on...sitting on the ground...looking all "Hatter"...near the end of the episode...OMG!!!!! ***died***

    Must say, saw a different side of him, as well, in this episode. Grace definitely changes him...NEED TO SEE THIS!!!!!

    More Jefferson backstory to come...I hope!!! Smile Cool
    eclectic1

    Post Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:26 pm by eclectic1

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    Couldn't resist!!! Wink

    So we see the origins of the Regina/Jefferson connection...

    me thinks we'll see the 'bad-boy' side of him in this episode!!! Twisted Evil
    eclectic1

    Post Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:49 pm by eclectic1

    NEWS UPDATE!!!! Very Happy Cool Very Happy

    This is BIG as it's hard to get a reply from the guy!!!!...SERIOUSLY!!!


    The Doctor Screenshot2353

    Get your questions ready!!! Wink
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:05 pm by Ranna156

    Anyone think he may have slept with Katheryn as well? HAHA that would be funny!
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:37 pm by Ranna156

    Nice peek 1! Whale gets punched finally Smile & we apparently found out why dr frank brings back dannyboy in SB...too bad it cost him his arm....bwhahaha
    eclectic1

    Post Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:10 pm by eclectic1

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Can we learn about PC while we're at it? It's killing me! Yeah I'm just going to start the Dr. Frank victory dance now. WOOT! Who else said Frank? I don't think I was the only one but gosh darn I'm excited.
    cheers
    P.S. The Mohawk dude is the Gingerbread Man. The hair got bitten off.
    (Hey listen, they made me doubt with their little "6 in 10k" lie but I figured that out and returned to my guess). I can make fun of myself for that little gaffe, no worries!

    obsessed...I was on board with Dr Frankenstein when I saw that tent shot in the one promo that came out. To, TOO eerie !!!!! Cool Shocked

    Now, I'm in the process of taking screenshots of this new promo and...the more I look at them...the more I'm convinced, Daniel turns out to BE a monster in the end. Maybe, Whale wanted it that way to get back at Regina for the curse...but, irregardless of whether or not Regina was the one who initiated bringing Daniel back to life or not...in the end, Daniel is NOT the same Daniel she remembers!!! Shocked So Sad Cool

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