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    Tallahassee

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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    It’s time to finally meet young Emma Swan. Fresh out of the foster care system, Emma has turned to a life of crime, stealing a very familiar yellow VW Beetle with practiced ease. But her masterful crime seems to be foiled when a man suddenly sits up from the back seat. Wait a minute, that’s the guy from the beginning of the season 2 premiere! The one who got that mysterious postcard. He introduces himself as Neal Cassidy, and as a freaked out Emma drives them around, she accidentally runs a Stop sign and gets pulled over. Neal thinks quickly and talks their way out of a ticket. Emma realizes this isn’t Neal’s car, either. And it looks like these two criminal masterminds may just be hitting it off.

    In post-Curse Fairy Tale Land, Hook has led the four princesses to a beanstalk, where he tells them a magical compass they need to travel between worlds awaits at the top, along with the last, most deadly of all Giants. It seems Jack and his band of humans fought a war with the vicious Giants a long time ago, and there is a single survivor that they will need to get past to get what they need to go home. Hook and Emma climb the beanstalk and emerge at the top. She tries to act like it’s not working, but it seems that Hook’s devilish smile and swagger may actually be sparking something for Emma. But when the Giant arrives, she’s all business, using a magic sleeping powder Mulan gave her to knock out the Giant and start digging through his treasure for that magic compass.

    Back to young Emma, who now appears to be pregnant as she and Neal rip off a convenience store. But when a customer almost catches them in the act, she fakes going into labor to rush herself and Neal out of there. When they get to their stolen Beetle, she pulls off a fake stomach full of loot. She’s not even pregnant! With the close call, Neal and Emma talk about settling down and quitting their life of crime. They decide to move to Tallahassee. But when Neal sees a wanted poster with his name and face on it, he freaks out. It turns out he stole a bunch of watches from one of his former employers and stashed them in a storage locker. Emma volunteers to get them so Neal can fence them and they can make that move. Neal is on his way to set things up with his fence when he’s chased down by a mysterious stranger. THE stranger, August Booth—who we now know is Pinocchio. He shows Neal something he has hidden in his typewriter box and lays out the whole story for him about what Emma needs to do. He tells Neal that, if he loves Emma, he won’t go meet her.

    Young Emma shows up for the meet, expecting to find Neal waiting for her with a bunch of cash and a trip to Tallahassee. But Neal’s not there, the cops are. She’s arrested and told that her boyfriend called in an anonymous tip on her. He ran away with the money and left her to take the fall. Later, Neal meets with August, where he hands over an envelope with the keys to the Beetle and the $20,000 that he made from selling the stolen watches. Neal asks August to give it all to Emma when she gets out and to help her like he was supposed to be doing her whole life. He asks if he’ll ever get to see her again, and August responds that if the Curse is ever broken, he’ll send him a postcard. It looks like he was true to his word on that one, at least. But when Emma gets the envelope in jail, the money is gone. She gets the keys to a now-legit Beetle, and she’s holding in her hand a positive pregnancy test. It looks like Neal is Henry’s father after all!

    That kind of betrayal can give anyone trust issues, so it makes sense that Emma is having trouble trusting Hook. When the Giant suddenly reawakens, the two get separated. She faces the massive man alone, and is able to trap him and use Jack’s poisoned sword to get the Giant to give her the compass. The Giant insists it was Jack and the humans who started the war and hunted his people down. He’s sure that Emma’s no different and that she’ll kill him no matter what. Emma proves him wrong and lets him live in exchange for the compass and a favor. She gets back to Hook, but shackles him, leaving him in the care of the Giant who has sworn to release Hook in ten hours. He seems genuinely hurt and obviously upset, but Emma says she can’t take a chance on someone betraying her again. She gets to the bottom of the beanstalk and the four princesses set off to get those magical wardrobe ashes from Cora.

    Meanwhile, in Storybrooke, Henry wakes up screaming from a nightmare. He describes a red room with no doors or windows and red curtains that are on fire. And on the other side of the room, a woman’s eyes staring at him. In Fairy Tale Land, Aurora is having the same dream, but with male eyes on the other side. We’re left to wonder just what this revelation means until the next episode, but it’s certainly terrifying to both Henry and Aurora.

    Pre-Air Info:





    Per Matt Mitovich/TV Line: "It's prbably about Emma’s difficult past, seeing as how in Season 1, Episode 4, “The Price of Gold,” Regina shared her learning that Miss Swan lived in the Florida town for two years. And as Kitsis told TVLine during our Fall Preview Q&A, “We’re excited to finally get a good look at some of Emma’s backstory before she had Henry. We may even see the origins of her beloved yellow bug.”

    *** Official Episode Press release...thx to Spoiler TV

    EMMA TREKS UP A BEANSTALK WITH A NOT-TOO-TRUSTWORTHY CAPTAIN HOOK TO STEAL A COMPASS FROM A MURDEROUS GIANT, AND EMMA’S PAST IS REVEALED, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    Jorge Garcia (“Lost”) Guest Stars as the Giant

    “Tallahassee” – With the hopes of finding a magical compass that could help her and Mary Margaret get back to Storybrooke, Emma takes a journey with a not-too-trustworthy Captain Hook up a treacherous beanstalk in an attempt to steal the item from a murderous giant (Jorge Garcia, “Lost”). Meanwhile, Emma’s past is revealed to be anything but magical when she meets up with a fellow thief who wants to make an honest woman out of her, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 4 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassady, Colin O’Donoghue as Killian Jones/Hook, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Eion Bailey as August W. Booth/Pinocchio, Jorge Garcia as Giant, Marc-Anthony Massiah as traffic cop, Tony Alcantar as cashier, Fane Tse as customer, Artine Brown as cop and Kerry Sandomirsky as Loretta.

    ”Tallahassee” was written by Christine Boylan & Jane Espenson and directed by Dave Barrett.


    ***PROMO #1...



    Sneak Peek #1 Can Hook be Trusted


    Sneak Peek #2 Emma Steals a Car



    Sneak Peek #3








    The official ABC secrets page for this episode can be found here:
    Tallahassee Secrets Page

    It looks like, beyond just being petty criminals, Emma and Neal had a bit of a sweet-tooth. When the two of them are robbing the convenience store during their whole "Bonnie and Clyde" phase, Neal nabs a couple of Apollo chocolate bars. LOST fans will recognize those.

    For fans who were paying attention during that first sequence in Episode 201: "Broken", you may have noticed a dreamcatcher in Neal's New York apartment. Here we see where he got that dreamcatcher. It looks like he kept it all that time, so someone's a bit sentimental.

    After Emma's in jail, she gets some mail containing the keys to her yellow VW Beetle. The prison guard says it's from someone in Phuket. ONCE fans who remember WAY back to Episode 120: "The Stranger", they'll recall August saying he spent some time there. Guess he must've "forgot" to include that $20,000 Neal gave him to give to Emma.


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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:11 pm by Ranna156

    based on the pics in the spoiler blog i think Mr. James is definitely going to be Henry's bio daddy!!!
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:46 pm by Ranna156

    actually there are quite a few fairy tales that feature birds!

    Then there is the reference to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:45 pm by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:
    Shekinel wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:

    I'm guessing that's where they're going, too! I also think that while it's a nod to Jack Sparrow, I don't know that they'll actually include Jack Sparrow himself. Well.. unless Jack and the Beanstalk - Jack Sparrow..... meh. Probably not. Anyhow Pirates of the Caribbean is Disney so I'm guessing there will be nods to the movies throughout the ep!

    Hook can also be both. Hook/Sparrow why not? xD

    Why the heck not? Come to think of it, we have quite a bird theme, don't we?

    Emma SWAN
    Jack SPARROW (perhaps)
    Henry was broung from PHOENIX
    A dove was featured in Season 1 "7:15 am"
    A pigeon came to Neal Cassady
    Snow and MM with the bluebirds in the pilot ep

    Nice roundup of all the bird stuff...

    Wasn't there a birdman fairytale? NO i don't mean Batman either...but hey why not... batman

    we saw the 'golden bird' words in Henry's book...
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:36 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    Shekinel wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:

    I'm guessing that's where they're going, too! I also think that while it's a nod to Jack Sparrow, I don't know that they'll actually include Jack Sparrow himself. Well.. unless Jack and the Beanstalk - Jack Sparrow..... meh. Probably not. Anyhow Pirates of the Caribbean is Disney so I'm guessing there will be nods to the movies throughout the ep!

    Hook can also be both. Hook/Sparrow why not? xD

    Why the heck not? Come to think of it, we have quite a bird theme, don't we?

    Emma SWAN
    Jack SPARROW (perhaps)
    Henry was broung from PHOENIX
    A dove was featured in Season 1 "7:15 am"
    A pigeon came to Neal Cassady
    Snow and MM with the bluebirds in the pilot ep
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:33 pm by Ranna156

    Shekinel wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:

    I'm guessing that's where they're going, too! I also think that while it's a nod to Jack Sparrow, I don't know that they'll actually include Jack Sparrow himself. Well.. unless Jack and the Beanstalk - Jack Sparrow..... meh. Probably not. Anyhow Pirates of the Caribbean is Disney so I'm guessing there will be nods to the movies throughout the ep!

    Hook can also be both. Hook/Sparrow why not? xD

    yeah...they do refer to him as a charming swashbuckler in the promo...haha
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:25 pm by Shekinel

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:

    I'm guessing that's where they're going, too! I also think that while it's a nod to Jack Sparrow, I don't know that they'll actually include Jack Sparrow himself. Well.. unless Jack and the Beanstalk - Jack Sparrow..... meh. Probably not. Anyhow Pirates of the Caribbean is Disney so I'm guessing there will be nods to the movies throughout the ep!

    Hook can also be both. Hook/Sparrow why not? xD
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:55 pm by Ranna156

    eclectic1 wrote:
    cuddlyasatiger wrote:A hollow victory then ... Laughing

    Give yourself credit...***pats on back*** Smile

    Good job, mate!!! thumbs up

    Agree!

    I have only beaten eclectic once myself!
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:37 pm by eclectic1

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:A hollow victory then ... Laughing

    Give yourself credit...***pats on back*** Smile

    Good job, mate!!! thumbs up
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:33 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    eclectic1 wrote:
    cuddlyasatiger wrote:I'm not sure what format you use to post these episode infos so I'm just going to post the press release here

    And then I will mark this day down as the first and probably only time I ever posted a spoiler before eclectic does. batman

    Wink Razz Cuddly... had to work and couldnt do until now!

    I was thinking the same thing on the compass...in "Pirates of the Caribbean"-the compass Jack Sparrow had pointed to "the thing the possessor wanted most".
    Find it interesting Kitsis/Horowitz would pull from that movie as well...IF this compass would work the same way. Cool

    I'm guessing that's where they're going, too! I also think that while it's a nod to Jack Sparrow, I don't know that they'll actually include Jack Sparrow himself. Well.. unless Jack and the Beanstalk - Jack Sparrow..... meh. Probably not. Anyhow Pirates of the Caribbean is Disney so I'm guessing there will be nods to the movies throughout the ep!
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:15 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    A hollow victory then ... Laughing
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:02 pm by eclectic1

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:I'm not sure what format you use to post these episode infos so I'm just going to post the press release here

    And then I will mark this day down as the first and probably only time I ever posted a spoiler before eclectic does. batman

    Wink Razz Cuddly... had to work and couldnt do until now!

    I was thinking the same thing on the compass...in "Pirates of the Caribbean"-the compass Jack Sparrow had pointed to "the thing the possessor wanted most".
    Find it interesting Kitsis/Horowitz would pull from that movie as well...IF this compass would work the same way. Cool
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:39 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    Shekinel wrote:Magic compass?!!! Like jack sparrow magic compass?!! =O!!

    My thought exactly! Very Happy pirat
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:13 pm by Shekinel

    Magic compass?!!! Like jack sparrow magic compass?!! =O!!
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    Post on Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:01 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    I'm not sure what format you use to post these episode infos so I'm just going to post the press release here

    And then I will mark this day down as the first and probably only time I ever posted a spoiler before eclectic does. batman
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:41 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    lol!
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:38 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:They said it was possible we have seen him and didn't know it = PROBABLY saw him in season 1 ... not definitely. Laughing I guess I should have used the phrase "might have" although it amounts to the same thing. Sorry for all the confusion. pirat Us pirates always causin' trouble

    Arrrrr!
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:35 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    They said it was possible we have seen him and didn't know it = PROBABLY saw him in season 1 ... not definitely. Laughing I guess I should have used the phrase "might have" although it amounts to the same thing. Sorry for all the confusion. pirat Us pirates always causin' trouble
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:27 pm by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I don't think it was said we would probably see him in S1. Do you remember where you saw that? All I remember is we might see him and not know we saw him. That much could be most anyone.

    The Daniel showing up in SB sounds vaguely familiar. Did they tell us we'd see him there? It's all a blur now.

    i am with you on the bit about Henry's father...I tend to have a knack for remembering small details like that so I DEFINITELY did NOT see them say that about season 1. However it is entirely possible that there is some spoiler or news bit i didn't see that said that...

    As for Daniel - I think SB Regina is seeing his ghost...I don't know what happens in the doctor episode...all i know there is a picture that definitely looks like a frankenstein moment AND then there are shots of someone wiht a mohawk, Jefferson, & Regina all running from something. I don't know what shot you are talking about that Emma see's Daniel...please post! lol

    I think Regina does get someone to try and bring back Daniel (FTL time) and it doesn't go over too well...maybe he is still the Frankenstein monster and Emma does see him! who knows...but I think we can be pretty confident that there is some connection with Daniel and Frank Monster! This playing around with 'dark magic' and the undead/dead might be what caused the major 'turn for the worse'...since it appeared it wasn't just bitterness about SW...something else caused her all consuming hatred and craziness...
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:16 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    I don't think it was said we would probably see him in S1. Do you remember where you saw that? All I remember is we might see him and not know we saw him. That much could be most anyone.

    The Daniel showing up in SB sounds vaguely familiar. Did they tell us we'd see him there? It's all a blur now.
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:45 pm by Ranna156

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:The other totally out there thought I had was how bad would it be if Dsniel (the Stableboy) is Henry's father! Daniel shows up in SB, they said we'd probably seen Henry's dad in S1, If he is Dr. F's monster (If there is a Dr. F) then he would be a "no hero" guy.

    No, I do not seriously think this, but the look on Regina's AND Emma's faces if were true ...

    LOL!

    Well I know last week Espenson said maybe we already have seen him...and from what I remember of last season all that was said was something like 'it is entirely possible we could meet Henry's father and not realize we have met him'

    Did they actually say we'd probably seen his father in season 1?

    If that is the case I am going with Baelfire is the father...I guess it is possible that Mystery guy is Bae but really? come on they look NOTHING alike and Bae was like 13 last we saw of him...granted little Pino and big Pino don't look much alike either but at least big Pino resembled the Disney version of Pino and little Pino was only 7...not 13!
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:35 pm by cuddlyasatiger

    The other totally out there thought I had was how bad would it be if Dsniel (the Stableboy) is Henry's father! Daniel shows up in SB, they said we'd probably seen Henry's dad in S1, If he is Dr. F's monster (If there is a Dr. F) then he would be a "no hero" guy.

    No, I do not seriously think this, but the look on Regina's AND Emma's faces if were true ...
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:11 pm by LZenOUT

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:lol! Ranna lol!

    She says "I don't. I think..." It's just right there where the rivet line is in the background. No wonder you were confused.
    lol! Mystery solved Smile
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:35 pm by Shekinel

    I can actually see either (mystery man and hook) of them being Henry's father!

    MysteryMan= I don't know why, don't have anything right now to back me up but i feel he can be henry's dad. Just waiting to see how his story plays if he ends up being the dad

    Hook= I see this totally possible IF he somehow could have been in our world via a portal.Jane didn't confirm if he has been to our world which leads me to think that he probably has!! And suddenly he is a regular when his episode hasn't even aired!!! He fits the no-hero dad.

    Ranna omg!!! if she recognizes him that would be shocking!!!! i wouldn't expect that! haha
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:13 pm by Ranna156

    OK now that that is all cleared up...It will definitely be interesting to see if Emma recognizes him (Hook)! when she sees him in FTL!!!

    However with one of Espenson's comments last week about 'maybe we have seen him' I keep thinking he either has to be Bae or the mystery man...and since i got a bad feeling about Mr. Mystery I am leaning more towards him as the 'no hero' father...
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    Post on Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:09 pm by Ranna156

    LOL!!!! you are right! I think i am going blind! LOL

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