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who do you think Lilly's Father is?
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    New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

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    Neal Cassady IS Henry's father....AND???

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    New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by LZenOUT on Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:59 pm

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    Peter Pan. He has an indian dream-catcher on the wall by his window and a number of other amerian indian style amulets (for lack of a better word) hanging near the door. He knows about the curse enough for someone to send him a message that it's broken yet he's so young. That leads me to think that he doesn't age. If he's not Peter Pan, I'd be very surprised.


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:07 pm

    he might STILL have a connection/counterpart to FTL. He could TOTALLY be a descendant of Bae...and it was that dagger picture August had that he showed him...picking Bae descendant for now! Wink


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:49 pm

    WHO IS NEAL CASSADY POLL 1 RESULTS:



    We know he is at least Henry's father now so trashing this poll! Wink

    Everyone who said Henry's father at least got that much right!


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:47 pm

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:I see your point Ranna. The merging stuff sounds like it's worth checking out.

    That might not work out so well...so instead...since what we really want is a record i will take a picture of this poll and then trash it...


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by cuddlyasatiger on Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:33 pm

    I see your point Ranna. The merging stuff sounds like it's worth checking out.


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:18 pm

    cuddlyasatiger wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I think you should reopen this one. Even ABC has told us we learn more about him as the season goes on they have made it pretty clear there's a FTL link. Maybe tweak it? Like, what is Neal's FTL relation? Have 'no relation' as an option?

    For example, PP wasn't ruled out this ep but the dream catcher's (the one in his apt) origin was shown.

    Totally agree. Maybe tweak it since we know for sure he's Henry's dad,
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    but even MRJ said he's in more eps this season.

    I understand what you guys r saying however a couple of issues

    1. Only 10 options can be had
    2. Every option currently has a vote and now that its confirmed he is henrys father half the options are useless...if I change an option the votes still stay and I am not willing nor going to pull a move like that...the one option that doesn't have a vote is one I would keep as an option anyway...
    3. I am not willing to change options on existing votes but I am not the only one who can change it...so if u r willling to do that go 4 it.

    Currently on my phone but I can mess around with starting a new poll and then merging topics and seeing what happens later


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by cuddlyasatiger on Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:34 pm

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I think you should reopen this one. Even ABC has told us we learn more about him as the season goes on they have made it pretty clear there's a FTL link. Maybe tweak it? Like, what is Neal's FTL relation? Have 'no relation' as an option?

    For example, PP wasn't ruled out this ep but the dream catcher's (the one in his apt) origin was shown.

    Totally agree. Maybe tweak it since we know for sure he's Henry's dad,
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    but even MRJ said he's in more eps this season.


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:25 pm

    I think you should reopen this one. Even ABC has told us we learn more about him as the season goes on they have made it pretty clear there's a FTL link. Maybe tweak it? Like, what is Neal's FTL relation? Have 'no relation' as an option?

    For example, PP wasn't ruled out this ep but the dream catcher's (the one in his apt) origin was shown.
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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:37 am

    So this poll is closed but I think another one is on the horizon that he might STILL have a connection/counterpart to FTL. He could TOTALLY be a descendant of Bae...


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:04 pm

    couldn't help but notice that Neal was a janitor at one point...like that cuckoo nest janitor in the psycho ward...not sure if that is just a coincidence or something more there...hmm


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:02 pm

    also the book kind of zapped Emma then she 'believed'..so i definitely think the book has some sort of magical property.



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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:12 pm

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I thinking that the theory of writer can benefit from this ep

    Actually I think if anything it would point more to August having a hand in writing it than Neal...but again either way neither of them would have really known about all the stories in there or what would have happened at the end with the EQ and PC and SW...So I think there is something 'bigger' going on with the book...


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:04 pm

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:
    rra615 wrote:i still want to know WHATS IN THE BOX

    Well it's got to be something that would convince you that magic is real, and so it would have to be the equivalent of showing himself turning to wood or something. A potion that's glowing? A heart? I doubt heart. Did he ever have Emma's baby blanket? The page with the picture of Emma being put into the wardrobe? I doubt that because I think Neal is the one who created the book. What could you look at for a second that could convince you to listen to someone tell you he knows about your girlfriend's destiny?

    I can't think of a darn thing! maybe a miniature person?

    like someone from gulliver's travels?

    what were they called? liliputions or was that something else?

    Thinking WL here also...anything from WL that might convince someone?


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:47 pm

    rra615 wrote:i still want to know WHATS IN THE BOX

    Well it's got to be something that would convince you that magic is real, and so it would have to be the equivalent of showing himself turning to wood or something. A potion that's glowing? A heart? I doubt heart. Did he ever have Emma's baby blanket? The page with the picture of Emma being put into the wardrobe? I doubt that because I think Neal is the one who created the book. What could you look at for a second that could convince you to listen to someone tell you he knows about your girlfriend's destiny?

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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by rra615 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:25 pm

    i still want to know WHATS IN THE BOX
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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:24 pm

    Fair enough.
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    Post by Ranna156 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:24 pm

    it does...although still not convinced that book didn't have some 'magical' help...


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:22 pm

    I thinking that the theory of writer can benefit from this ep
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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:14 pm

    appears he is Henry's father and a theif. Doesn't look like he has a FTL counterpart...

    oooooohhhhhh Emma is gonna be PISSED i bet when she finds out EVERYTHING!


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:35 pm

    remember when i said i thought he was the caterpillar?

    Seriously i am really almost back to he is SOMEONE in this picture:




    HAHA I would laugh REALLY hard if he did end up being the caterpillar!


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:00 am

    Oh don't get me wrong: I'm not saying MRJ is PP - but that is one of the popular theories and since we are seeing more of him next week I'm sure they'll drop hints as to who is FT-wise. So I figured it was something to watch for.

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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by rra615 on Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:13 am

    yeah, definitely i think 14 would be most notable age for PP

    i don't know if i think MRJ is PP.. i'm still holding on to Bae being PP, and this would make him 3 people. i mean, i know Rumple is multiple characters - Rumple, the beast, the crocodile, among others yet to come. i don't think Bae necessarily will have to be 3 people as well.

    however, if he's NOT PP, he has to be able to portal jump like Jefferson so he will have to know Jefferson. theres not a doubt in my mind that he is definitely Henry's father. i doubt we find out what FTL counterpart he is, and even if we do it won't be the end of it!
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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:37 am

    here is what wiki says about PP's age...

    The notion of a boy who would never grow up was based on J. M. Barrie's older brother who died in an ice-skating accident the day before he turned 14, and thus always stayed a young boy in his mother's mind.[2] The "boy who wouldn't grow up" has appeared at a variety of ages. In his original appearance in The Little White Bird he was only seven days old. Although his age is not stated in Barrie's later play and novel, his characterization is clearly years older. The book states that he has all of his baby teeth, and Barrie's intended model for the statue of Peter that was erected in Kensington Gardens was a set of photos of Michael Llewelyn Davies taken at the age of six. Early illustrations of the character generally appeared to be that age or perhaps a few years older. In the 1953 Disney adaptation and its 2002 sequel, Peter appears to be in late childhood, between 10 and 13 years old. (The actor who provided the voice in 1953 was 15-year-old Bobby Driscoll.) In the 2003 film, Jeremy Sumpter was 13 at the time filming started; by the end of filming he was 14 and had grown several inches taller. In the movie Hook, Peter is said to have left Neverland many years earlier, forsaking his eternal youth and ageing normally. When remembering his buried past, Peter is shown as a baby, and little boy, and also a near-teenager, suggesting that the ageing process does not entirely stop in Neverland until puberty or just before, or that Peter aged a little bit every time he left Neverland to come to the real world. When Peter says, "I remember you being a lot bigger," in the final duel, Hook answers, "to a 10-year-old I'm huge." He is portrayed by Robin Williams, who turned 40 during production of the film.

    so I guess he can what ever age they want him to be...

    Although i am hoping PP does turn out to be Bae and still be 14...I think Rumple has earned getting his 14 year old son back...haha


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by Ranna156 on Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:29 am

    I am holding on to Baelfire is Peter Pan...and I just don't think this guy is Bae...besides...Peter Pan was much younger...if he was still able to be in Neverland and not age I don't think he would come to this world and father a child...

    However if when the curse hit PP got trapped in this world and started aging then maybe this guy is PP...so disney had PP at like 13? 14? so that would make him in his 30's screwing around with a 17 year old...if Pan was younger (still had all his baby teeth I think) that would put him at a more appropriate age...

    Anyway i don't think this guy is PP...but you never know! Wink


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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:03 am

    Here's another thing that just hit me:

    So he's Henry's dad, ok. But if he's also PP then I wonder if we'll see something like Emma or someone talking about how a baby means growing up and then PP freaking out at that prospect and running for it. I don't know if we'll learn his FTL counterpart or not this ep (doubt it) but I'd watch for something like that if you think he's Pan.
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    Re: New Character in NYC - Neal Cassady

    Post by obsessedwithOUAT on Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:40 am

    Oh he's totally Henry's dad. If he's WL he's WR, no doubt.

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