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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    It’s night time in Fairy Tale Land and Cora is angry. She confronts Captain Hook, seething at his apparent betrayal. He says it was all a part of the plan and promises to deliver the compass, but Cora tells him she’s going to do things her way from now on. She returns to the island encampment and pulls a heart from one of many boxes, bringing it back to life through magic. The lifeless bodies strewn about come back to life, picking up weapons as she sends them out after the four Princesses. Meanwhile, Emma and Mary Margaret speak to Aurora, trying to get as much information about her dreams as they can. Once they’re sure she’s communicating with Henry due to the after-effects of the sleeping curse, they work with Aurora to send her back to sleep looking for answers, a plan Mulan’s not sure she likes.

    In Storybrooke, Henry awakens from another nightmare to find David and Regina watching over him. He tells them that the girl he’s seeing in his dreams is named Aurora and that she says she’s with Emma and Mary Margaret. They’re looking for a way home, but they need to defeat Regina’s mother, Cora, to get there, and they need help. Regina immediately goes to see Mr. Gold, who is almost as unhappy to hear that Cora is planning a trip to Storybrooke as she is. He meets Henry, David and Regina at his shop where they decide to put Henry under once again to convey information. What they need to defeat Cora is magical squid ink that was once used to imprison Rumplestiltskin himself. A jar of it is hidden in his cell beneath Snow White and Prince Charming’s castle. Henry tries to relay the message in the netherworld, but the flames are too much and Aurora is suddenly pulled away.

    Back in The Enchanted Forest, Mulan is shaking Aurora awake as they are being attacked by reanimated villagers! The four women fight off the attackers, but Aurora is captured. Meeting her in the cell in the island encampment, Cora tells Aurora that, for a little cooperation, she could recover Prince Phillip’s soul from The Wraith, but Aurora is not so easily bought. While Emma, Mary Margaret and Mulan come looking for her, a raven delivers the message that Cora will trade the compass for Aurora’s life. Little does Cora know, Captain Hook has snuck into Aurora’s cell, freeing her and gaining her trust. She sends the young Princess back to meet her friends, seemingly in hopes of keeping his original deal with Emma. Meanwhile, Mary Margaret decides that they should use some of Mulan’s sleeping powder to put her into a deep sleep so she can try to talk to Henry. Having once been under the sleeping curse before, that shouldn’t be too hard for her.

    When Henry awakens from his latest attempt with terrible burns on his arm, David and Regina refuse to send him back to finish the job. Mr. Gold insists it’s necessary and David agrees, so he says he’ll go instead. Regina and Mr. Gold brew up a sleeping curse and David must undergo it the old fashioned way—with the needle of a spinning wheel. His hope is to give Mary Margaret the information she needs so she can come back and wake him up with True Love’s Kiss, but it’s a big risk. When he’s under the curse, he first arrives in a dark, empty room. Using a charm from Rumplestiltskin, he’s able to find his way into the red, fiery room Henry had been in, and finds Mary Margaret waiting for him. He gallantly fights his way through the flames to her, but in the netherworld, they can’t touch. He tells his beloved wife about the squid ink, but then Mary Margaret realizes what’s happened. David will be trapped there until she finds a way home to awaken him. And if she fails to defeat Cora and get home at all, he’ll be trapped there forever!

    Mary Margaret awakens, panicked now that her husband’s life is on the line as well. Emma calms her down, but they both realize Mulan has left. She’s taken the compass to trade to Cora! Emma and Mary Margaret chase after Mulan, stopping her in the woods not far from the island encampment. Suddenly, Aurora appears, explaining how Captain Hook let her go. She suddenly seems to know just what to say to calm everyone down, and that’s because the words aren’t hers—they’re Cora’s! Captain Hook somehow took the Princess’ heart and gave it to Cora as a gift. Now Cora and Hook have complete power over Sleeping Beauty and will use her as a means to stop the others and get the compass. Then it will be on to Storybrooke and a mother-daughter reunion that certainly won’t end with “happily ever after.”

    Pre-Air Info:



    ***pics share by SpoilerTV


    ***Thx to ABC Publicity (and Spoiler TV for the share)
    Episode 2:08 into the Deep Press release:


    CORA ATTEMPTS TO STEAL THE COMPASS TO LOCATE THE ENTRANCE TO STORYBROOKE, AND REGINA AND MR. GOLD MUST PUT DAVID’S LIFE IN JEOPARDY SO THAT HE CAN CONTACT MARY MARGARET ACROSS THE LANDS TO GIVE HER SOME VITAL INFORMATION, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    “Into the Deep” – Cora does everything in her power to steal the compass away from Mary Margaret and Emma in her quest to find the entrance to Storybrooke. Meanwhile, in order to protect Henry from further danger, Regina and Mr. Gold must put David’s life in jeopardy in an attempt to put him in contact with Mary Margaret across the lands to give her vital information that could help her and Emma return through the portal back to Storybrooke, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 25 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Barbara Hershey as Cora, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Beverley Elliott as Granny, Sarah Bolger as Aurora and Jamie Chung as Mulan.

    ”Into the Deep” was written by Kalinda Vazquez & Daniel T. Thomsen and directed by Ron Underwood.


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    Ranna156

    Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:12 pm by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:By the way, YET AGAIN Rumpel helps Henry without a price for his magic. I'm telling you, the writers are screaming something in our faces:
    Last season he says to Emma (as he gives her the walkie talkies), "For your boy. Please take them; they grow up so fast."

    He heals Henry's burn with no price

    He gives Henry the necklace at no price.

    There's been other times he's played situations to make things work out in Charming Family's favor.

    I'm telling you, either he's SERIOUSLY playing them to get something to happen or he knows something that makes him want good things for them. I'm starting to wonder if perchance he really IS blood related to Henry. I'd loosely entertained it before but I'm starting to really lean that way.

    I think its definitely possible he might be related to the charmings somehow...but if he is I don't think he knows that...also we haven't seen him interact with any other children...so I think he still has a soft spot for them. The way Morraine spoke about him on the battlefield she was impressed by him...not scared. And most of the people he helped they went to him...Charming is the only person i recall right now him approaching...
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:15 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    rra615 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:By the way, YET AGAIN Rumpel helps Henry without a price for his magic. I'm telling you, the writers are screaming something in our faces:
    Last season he says to Emma (as he gives her the walkie talkies), "For your boy. Please take them; they grow up so fast."

    He heals Henry's burn with no price

    He gives Henry the necklace at no price.

    There's been other times he's played situations to make things work out in Charming Family's favor.

    I'm telling you, either he's SERIOUSLY playing them to get something to happen or he knows something that makes him want good things for them. I'm starting to wonder if perchance he really IS blood related to Henry. I'd loosely entertained it before but I'm starting to really lean that way.

    i really think he's going to count on the Charming family to find Bae..thats the only thing i can think of

    also- did charming's neclace that rumple originally gave to henry break when he fell through the ceiling?

    I think so! And if you look closely, when it shows him lying in bed after that scene, it shows the locket broken in SB, too! So it didn't just break in the dream but for real as well.
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:11 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    rra615 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:By the way, YET AGAIN Rumpel helps Henry without a price for his magic. I'm telling you, the writers are screaming something in our faces:
    Last season he says to Emma (as he gives her the walkie talkies), "For your boy. Please take them; they grow up so fast."

    He heals Henry's burn with no price

    He gives Henry the necklace at no price.

    There's been other times he's played situations to make things work out in Charming Family's favor.

    I'm telling you, either he's SERIOUSLY playing them to get something to happen or he knows something that makes him want good things for them. I'm starting to wonder if perchance he really IS blood related to Henry. I'd loosely entertained it before but I'm starting to really lean that way.

    i really think he's going to count on the Charming family to find Bae..thats the only thing i can think of

    also- did charming's neclace that rumple originally gave to henry break when he fell through the ceiling?

    I think so! And if you look closely, when it shows him lying in bed after that scene, it shows the locket broken in SB, too! So it didn't just break in the dream but for real as well.
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    Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:23 pm by rra615

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:By the way, YET AGAIN Rumpel helps Henry without a price for his magic. I'm telling you, the writers are screaming something in our faces:
    Last season he says to Emma (as he gives her the walkie talkies), "For your boy. Please take them; they grow up so fast."

    He heals Henry's burn with no price

    He gives Henry the necklace at no price.

    There's been other times he's played situations to make things work out in Charming Family's favor.

    I'm telling you, either he's SERIOUSLY playing them to get something to happen or he knows something that makes him want good things for them. I'm starting to wonder if perchance he really IS blood related to Henry. I'd loosely entertained it before but I'm starting to really lean that way.

    i really think he's going to count on the Charming family to find Bae..thats the only thing i can think of

    also- did charming's neclace that rumple originally gave to henry break when he fell through the ceiling?
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:05 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    By the way, YET AGAIN Rumpel helps Henry without a price for his magic. I'm telling you, the writers are screaming something in our faces:
    Last season he says to Emma (as he gives her the walkie talkies), "For your boy. Please take them; they grow up so fast."

    He heals Henry's burn with no price

    He gives Henry the necklace at no price.

    There's been other times he's played situations to make things work out in Charming Family's favor.

    I'm telling you, either he's SERIOUSLY playing them to get something to happen or he knows something that makes him want good things for them. I'm starting to wonder if perchance he really IS blood related to Henry. I'd loosely entertained it before but I'm starting to really lean that way.
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:46 pm by Ranna156

    i definitely think it could be debatable that the heart belongs to Aurora...maybe Hook took something else of Aurora's (like a piece of hair) and had a spell or something and that is what is controlling her...but i agree with you Obsessed 100% on all your other points. I think he either has magic or has/had access to something magical. He is not much younger than Rumple so he has been around for a long time and I am sure he learned quite a few things in this time...
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:32 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    Maybe I'm not thinking on this enough, but I'm not sure why it's debatable if you need magic or not to take a heart. If you can reach into a person, grab their heart, and take it out without killing him/her, creating a mess, creating an infection, waking him/her up, or leaving a wound (without wanting to) then I'm not sure how that DOESN'T involve magic. So I think:
    1) Hook took the heart while Aurora was asleep
    2) He used his own magic that we didn't know he had or (and I think this is more likely) he used fairy dust or some external form to get that power
    3) I think he learned this craft from Cora in the past, or possibly Regina
    4) I think he learned this because it is what he plans to do to Rumpelstiltskin

    It could be argued that someone else took the heart that we have yet to see but I doubt it, and I don't think we can doubt it's Aurora's heart given that she's being controlled and Cora was using it to follow the women.
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:06 pm by Ranna156

    yeah i don't know if it has ever been stated that you need magic but it also appeared that quite a few people 'had magic' and didn't realize it. Maybe Regina taught Hook how to take hearts...she was also pretty against Rumple towards the end there while in FTL...so maybe she met up with Hook at some point and tried to conspire with him to 'get the dark one'?
    Noortjj

    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:33 am by Noortjj

    rra615 wrote:
    Noortjj wrote:
    rra615 wrote:how did hook get aurora's heart?!?!?!

    Well i guess he just ripped his first heart out, like Rumple, Cora and Regina had a first heart they ripped out..

    They never stated you need magic to take a heart right..?

    that is true, but we never saw it happen..so could it have been before she woke up? and if she was asleep, why didn't she end up in the room with PC and snow.. doesn't she go there when she falls asleep anyway? and will henry go there when he falls asleep too?

    Well when Henry and Aurora sleep they should be in the room with Charming.. Maybe Aurora 'fell asleep' after Snow woke up..? Or maybe she doesnt go there when she is unconscious since Cora smacked her to the wall..?

    And then i guess Hook took her heart while she was asleep en then woke her up..? I'm getting confused XD
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    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:13 am by rra615

    Noortjj wrote:
    rra615 wrote:how did hook get aurora's heart?!?!?!

    Well i guess he just ripped his first heart out, like Rumple, Cora and Regina had a first heart they ripped out..

    They never stated you need magic to take a heart right..?

    that is true, but we never saw it happen..so could it have been before she woke up? and if she was asleep, why didn't she end up in the room with PC and snow.. doesn't she go there when she falls asleep anyway? and will henry go there when he falls asleep too?
    Noortjj

    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:08 am by Noortjj

    rra615 wrote:how did hook get aurora's heart?!?!?!

    Well i guess he just ripped his first heart out, like Rumple, Cora and Regina had a first heart they ripped out..

    They never stated you need magic to take a heart right..?
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    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:00 am by rra615

    how did hook get aurora's heart?!?!?!
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:10 am by Ranna156

    So when Charming first entered that room of mirrors you could hear whispers. I wonder if that Netherworld is also where all those wraths souls are. Maybe that was the whispers of the peoples souls trapped and they were just in a different room.
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:40 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    It's looking pretty good that Cora takes Hook's heart in that one sneak peek - or at least tries. Hook has seen that little trick before so maybe he's prepared? I don't know how you'd ward that off, presumably from Cora (because I'm on board with
    Spoiler:
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    Noortjj

    Post Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:58 am by Noortjj

    Finally sneak peeks, i was waiting for those XD

    Wonder how they will bring Charming under the sleeping curse.. There is no more apple so.. maybe Rumple knows something?

    No doubt about it that Snow will indeed wake him up if he falls under the sleeping curse.. Smile
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:27 pm by Ranna156

    YES! Looking really good that PC subjects himself to the sleeping curse!!!! haha
    Ranna156

    Post Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:14 am by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Where are the netherworld stills posted?

    If you are referring to the promo stills that E took they are here:

    http://www.chatouat.com/t341-ouat-promos-sneak-peeks
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:31 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Where are the netherworld stills posted?
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:39 am by Ranna156

    mmaybe hte hands were making sure they were asleep? They might try coordinating their sleeping schedule...or maybe be put to sleep through medication or something?
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    Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:46 am by rra615

    it does look like a door behind the flames in the burning room.. and it looks like aurora is being sucked through it. i wonder if thats a portal and if she will come to SB

    as for the hands above the faces, i'm not 100% convinced that it controls the dream - gold gave henry a potion to wear that allows him to control what happens
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:29 am by Ranna156

    Maybe that key MM is wearing around her neck will open a door in that burning castle place in the Netherworld?...

    Then there is also that crystal ball we saw recently...we haven't seen it in SB yet have we? Have a feeling we might see it sooner rather than later...maybe you can look into the ball and see people in the Netherworld?
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:50 am by Ranna156

    eclectic1 wrote:Just posted the "Promo breakdown pics" in the News/Spoiler area...

    I dont think I'll be the only one to see the "castle" image in the flames/background...

    is this just a 'visual effect'?...or, is the portal door destination actually connected to a certain castle in these dreams???

    The room of mirrors...looks like those mirrors could be 'doors'...that PC is in, too, is interesting. Is he under the sleeping spell here???


    THANKS for doing that! Wow its amazing what you can see in the freeze frames! I could NOT tell who that was twirling up in the promo but could definitely tell in the freeze frame! And I totally see a castle as well! Here are some more of my thoughts i wrote down while viewing it:


    Ranna156
    that definitely looks like a castle!
    6 minutes ago
    Ranna156
    And that picture with PC and the torch...looks like he is still in that room of mirrors
    6 minutes ago
    Ranna156
    maybe 'hammering' at the floor iwth the torch or something?
    5 minutes ago
    Ranna156
    and something about that floor of the Netherworld burning castle red room really reminds me of a video game!
    4 minutes ago
    Ranna156
    I have to wonder though if Aurora is going through that door or if something other than Henry is making her 'twirl up'...or maybe like you said Henry sees the door and maybe is sending Aurora up there to check it out? hmmm very interesting anyway you look at it!
    eclectic1

    Post Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:40 pm by eclectic1

    Just posted the "Promo breakdown pics" in the News/Spoiler area...

    I dont think I'll be the only one to see the "castle" image in the flames/background...

    is this just a 'visual effect'?...or, is the portal door destination actually connected to a certain castle in these dreams???

    The room of mirrors...looks like those mirrors could be 'doors'...that PC is in, too, is interesting. Is he under the sleeping spell here???

    Ranna156

    Post Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:57 pm by Ranna156

    rra615 wrote:why don't they just go down the mineshaft? it leads to FTL!!!!

    I know some people think that...but I don't think that is the case. and technically they were down in the mines and we saw Snow White's coffin down below the library as well. I don't think that is FTL down there.
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    Post Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:12 pm by rra615

    why don't they just go down the mineshaft? it leads to FTL!!!!

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