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    eclectic1

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    Tallahassee

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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    It’s time to finally meet young Emma Swan. Fresh out of the foster care system, Emma has turned to a life of crime, stealing a very familiar yellow VW Beetle with practiced ease. But her masterful crime seems to be foiled when a man suddenly sits up from the back seat. Wait a minute, that’s the guy from the beginning of the season 2 premiere! The one who got that mysterious postcard. He introduces himself as Neal Cassidy, and as a freaked out Emma drives them around, she accidentally runs a Stop sign and gets pulled over. Neal thinks quickly and talks their way out of a ticket. Emma realizes this isn’t Neal’s car, either. And it looks like these two criminal masterminds may just be hitting it off.

    In post-Curse Fairy Tale Land, Hook has led the four princesses to a beanstalk, where he tells them a magical compass they need to travel between worlds awaits at the top, along with the last, most deadly of all Giants. It seems Jack and his band of humans fought a war with the vicious Giants a long time ago, and there is a single survivor that they will need to get past to get what they need to go home. Hook and Emma climb the beanstalk and emerge at the top. She tries to act like it’s not working, but it seems that Hook’s devilish smile and swagger may actually be sparking something for Emma. But when the Giant arrives, she’s all business, using a magic sleeping powder Mulan gave her to knock out the Giant and start digging through his treasure for that magic compass.

    Back to young Emma, who now appears to be pregnant as she and Neal rip off a convenience store. But when a customer almost catches them in the act, she fakes going into labor to rush herself and Neal out of there. When they get to their stolen Beetle, she pulls off a fake stomach full of loot. She’s not even pregnant! With the close call, Neal and Emma talk about settling down and quitting their life of crime. They decide to move to Tallahassee. But when Neal sees a wanted poster with his name and face on it, he freaks out. It turns out he stole a bunch of watches from one of his former employers and stashed them in a storage locker. Emma volunteers to get them so Neal can fence them and they can make that move. Neal is on his way to set things up with his fence when he’s chased down by a mysterious stranger. THE stranger, August Booth—who we now know is Pinocchio. He shows Neal something he has hidden in his typewriter box and lays out the whole story for him about what Emma needs to do. He tells Neal that, if he loves Emma, he won’t go meet her.

    Young Emma shows up for the meet, expecting to find Neal waiting for her with a bunch of cash and a trip to Tallahassee. But Neal’s not there, the cops are. She’s arrested and told that her boyfriend called in an anonymous tip on her. He ran away with the money and left her to take the fall. Later, Neal meets with August, where he hands over an envelope with the keys to the Beetle and the $20,000 that he made from selling the stolen watches. Neal asks August to give it all to Emma when she gets out and to help her like he was supposed to be doing her whole life. He asks if he’ll ever get to see her again, and August responds that if the Curse is ever broken, he’ll send him a postcard. It looks like he was true to his word on that one, at least. But when Emma gets the envelope in jail, the money is gone. She gets the keys to a now-legit Beetle, and she’s holding in her hand a positive pregnancy test. It looks like Neal is Henry’s father after all!

    That kind of betrayal can give anyone trust issues, so it makes sense that Emma is having trouble trusting Hook. When the Giant suddenly reawakens, the two get separated. She faces the massive man alone, and is able to trap him and use Jack’s poisoned sword to get the Giant to give her the compass. The Giant insists it was Jack and the humans who started the war and hunted his people down. He’s sure that Emma’s no different and that she’ll kill him no matter what. Emma proves him wrong and lets him live in exchange for the compass and a favor. She gets back to Hook, but shackles him, leaving him in the care of the Giant who has sworn to release Hook in ten hours. He seems genuinely hurt and obviously upset, but Emma says she can’t take a chance on someone betraying her again. She gets to the bottom of the beanstalk and the four princesses set off to get those magical wardrobe ashes from Cora.

    Meanwhile, in Storybrooke, Henry wakes up screaming from a nightmare. He describes a red room with no doors or windows and red curtains that are on fire. And on the other side of the room, a woman’s eyes staring at him. In Fairy Tale Land, Aurora is having the same dream, but with male eyes on the other side. We’re left to wonder just what this revelation means until the next episode, but it’s certainly terrifying to both Henry and Aurora.

    Pre-Air Info:





    Per Matt Mitovich/TV Line: "It's prbably about Emma’s difficult past, seeing as how in Season 1, Episode 4, “The Price of Gold,” Regina shared her learning that Miss Swan lived in the Florida town for two years. And as Kitsis told TVLine during our Fall Preview Q&A, “We’re excited to finally get a good look at some of Emma’s backstory before she had Henry. We may even see the origins of her beloved yellow bug.”

    *** Official Episode Press release...thx to Spoiler TV

    EMMA TREKS UP A BEANSTALK WITH A NOT-TOO-TRUSTWORTHY CAPTAIN HOOK TO STEAL A COMPASS FROM A MURDEROUS GIANT, AND EMMA’S PAST IS REVEALED, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    Jorge Garcia (“Lost”) Guest Stars as the Giant

    “Tallahassee” – With the hopes of finding a magical compass that could help her and Mary Margaret get back to Storybrooke, Emma takes a journey with a not-too-trustworthy Captain Hook up a treacherous beanstalk in an attempt to steal the item from a murderous giant (Jorge Garcia, “Lost”). Meanwhile, Emma’s past is revealed to be anything but magical when she meets up with a fellow thief who wants to make an honest woman out of her, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 4 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassady, Colin O’Donoghue as Killian Jones/Hook, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Eion Bailey as August W. Booth/Pinocchio, Jorge Garcia as Giant, Marc-Anthony Massiah as traffic cop, Tony Alcantar as cashier, Fane Tse as customer, Artine Brown as cop and Kerry Sandomirsky as Loretta.

    ”Tallahassee” was written by Christine Boylan & Jane Espenson and directed by Dave Barrett.


    ***PROMO #1...



    Sneak Peek #1 Can Hook be Trusted


    Sneak Peek #2 Emma Steals a Car



    Sneak Peek #3








    The official ABC secrets page for this episode can be found here:
    Tallahassee Secrets Page

    It looks like, beyond just being petty criminals, Emma and Neal had a bit of a sweet-tooth. When the two of them are robbing the convenience store during their whole "Bonnie and Clyde" phase, Neal nabs a couple of Apollo chocolate bars. LOST fans will recognize those.

    For fans who were paying attention during that first sequence in Episode 201: "Broken", you may have noticed a dreamcatcher in Neal's New York apartment. Here we see where he got that dreamcatcher. It looks like he kept it all that time, so someone's a bit sentimental.

    After Emma's in jail, she gets some mail containing the keys to her yellow VW Beetle. The prison guard says it's from someone in Phuket. ONCE fans who remember WAY back to Episode 120: "The Stranger", they'll recall August saying he spent some time there. Guess he must've "forgot" to include that $20,000 Neal gave him to give to Emma.


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    Post on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:03 am by Ranna156

    its possible...I almost wonder if they were role playing and she was jsut practicing at stealing...

    Post on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:36 am by rra615

    so when neal meets emma and she tells him her full name, he says "good name"... maybe he knows who she is afterall?
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    Post on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:38 pm by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:Snow doesn't like how Hook is looking at Emma! Mommy instincts are in full swing!

    haha
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    Post on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:37 pm by Ranna156

    i really got to wonder if this Neal is going to come to SB before Emma gets back and maybe a love triangle will ensue with Emma, Neal, and Regina!
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    Post on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:37 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    Snow doesn't like how Hook is looking at Emma! Mommy instincts are in full swing!
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    Post on Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:50 am by Ranna156

    YES!!! August is back in this episode!!!
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    Post on Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:33 pm by Ranna156

    omg the canadian promo - What I really want is you!!!!

    so excited!!!!
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:19 pm by Ranna156

    yeah Neal Cassady was definitely a real person:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Cassady
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:00 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    andiwatson642 wrote:
    rra615 wrote:what if neal cassady/ MRJ is robin hood? they describe him as a "fellow theif" and robin hood "stole" for the rich to give to the poor...

    sorry if that was already said!




    I did some research on the name Neal Cassady. Could find nothing on Cassady, but I learned that Neal means "champion". So this would make sense, wasn't Robin Hood a champion for his people?

    I think it is in the NYC character thread but Ranna and I both looked him up. I looked up Neal and Cassady separately and Ranna looked it up together and found an actual person. There's LOTS of stuff that really fits if you look at 'the real' Neal Cassady.
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:58 pm by eclectic1

    andiwatson642 wrote:
    rra615 wrote:what if neal cassady/ MRJ is robin hood? they describe him as a "fellow theif" and robin hood "stole" for the rich to give to the poor...

    sorry if that was already said!




    I did some research on the name Neal Cassady. Could find nothing on Cassady, but I learned that Neal means "champion". So this would make sense, wasn't Robin Hood a champion for his people?

    Interesting...I could see this. I'd like him to be Robin Hood over Bae...

    But, then how would he have escaped 'the curse'? The fact this Neal has lived outside the SB limits all this time...

    I have a sneaky feeling that August knows of Neal-whether personally or not, not sure...but, the fact August makes an appearance in this episode, I wonder if he meets up with Neal to bring him back to SB!

    Thoughts??!!?? Cool

    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:07 pm by rra615

    yeah in the disney movie at least, he was a champion archer.. at least i think so. i haven't seen that movie since the 90s probably haha but from what i remember he won an archery competition in the animated movie.
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:54 pm by andiwatson642

    rra615 wrote:what if neal cassady/ MRJ is robin hood? they describe him as a "fellow theif" and robin hood "stole" for the rich to give to the poor...

    sorry if that was already said!




    I did some research on the name Neal Cassady. Could find nothing on Cassady, but I learned that Neal means "champion". So this would make sense, wasn't Robin Hood a champion for his people?
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:47 am by Ranna156

    yeah i really wish they would tell us his name already!
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:25 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Sorry I didn't write this sooner:

    The plates are: E83 KAE on the bug.

    For funsies, the plate of the cop car in one shot is E11300.
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:22 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Ranna156 wrote:haha or maybe that was where Henry was conceived...the backseat of a car!

    NOOOOOOOO! And yet - maybe! If she gave birth to Henry in prison who knows? Oy.

    You know these next couple weeks are going to be epic! I hope they sneak in a PC name somewhere in there, too!
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:03 am by Ranna156

    haha or maybe that was where Henry was conceived...the backseat of a car!
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:50 am by Ranna156

    rra615 wrote:interesting..they very well may have stolen that car from oregon

    haha they did look like they could have been on a road trip...

    Neal Cassady got busted a couple of times for stealing cars...(the real Neal)...although I don't know how Emma could keep her car if it was stolen? Wouldn't they confiscate it back?

    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:54 am by rra615

    interesting..they very well may have stolen that car from oregon
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:53 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    Good point. Anyhow, did you see pics with the bug? It has Oregon tags and the plate has different letters/numbers.

    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:51 am by rra615

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:
    rra615 wrote:what if neal cassady/ MRJ is robin hood? they describe him as a "fellow theif" and robin hood "stole" for the rich to give to the poor...

    sorry if that was already said!

    I don't remember seeing that said. It's a good thought since they said we'll be seeing Robin Hood. They didn't specify this season but that doesn't mean it's a 'no'.

    one of the links in e's spoilers section.. one of the e! news links
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:49 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    rra615 wrote:what if neal cassady/ MRJ is robin hood? they describe him as a "fellow theif" and robin hood "stole" for the rich to give to the poor...

    sorry if that was already said!

    I don't remember seeing that said. It's a good thought since they said we'll be seeing Robin Hood. They didn't specify this season but that doesn't mean it's a 'no'.
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:47 am by Shekinel

    From what i see in the photos, I think that maybe she got caught and took the blame while the other one got away. BUT I don't think she was completely innocent . Maybe in that specific "crime" she was innocent,but she does have her sneaky ways in season 1!! Maybe she was a thief too and just paid for a crime she didn't do.

    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:00 am by rra615

    what if neal cassady/ MRJ is robin hood? they describe him as a "fellow theif" and robin hood "stole" for the rich to give to the poor...

    sorry if that was already said!
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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:16 pm by eclectic1

    I knew it...I knew it from the announcement of the 'mystery man'!!!

    KNEW he would at least be Henry's father...appears he just might be! Wink

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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:13 pm by Ranna156

    Ranna156 wrote:OK now that that is all cleared up...It will definitely be interesting to see if Emma recognizes him (Hook)! when she sees him in FTL!!!

    However with one of Espenson's comments last week about 'maybe we have seen him' I keep thinking he either has to be Bae or the mystery man...and since i got a bad feeling about Mr. Mystery I am leaning more towards him as the 'no hero' father...

    bringing this oldie but goodie back to the forefront!

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