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    Official ABC Recap & Pre Air info:


    It’s night time in Fairy Tale Land and Cora is angry. She confronts Captain Hook, seething at his apparent betrayal. He says it was all a part of the plan and promises to deliver the compass, but Cora tells him she’s going to do things her way from now on. She returns to the island encampment and pulls a heart from one of many boxes, bringing it back to life through magic. The lifeless bodies strewn about come back to life, picking up weapons as she sends them out after the four Princesses. Meanwhile, Emma and Mary Margaret speak to Aurora, trying to get as much information about her dreams as they can. Once they’re sure she’s communicating with Henry due to the after-effects of the sleeping curse, they work with Aurora to send her back to sleep looking for answers, a plan Mulan’s not sure she likes.

    In Storybrooke, Henry awakens from another nightmare to find David and Regina watching over him. He tells them that the girl he’s seeing in his dreams is named Aurora and that she says she’s with Emma and Mary Margaret. They’re looking for a way home, but they need to defeat Regina’s mother, Cora, to get there, and they need help. Regina immediately goes to see Mr. Gold, who is almost as unhappy to hear that Cora is planning a trip to Storybrooke as she is. He meets Henry, David and Regina at his shop where they decide to put Henry under once again to convey information. What they need to defeat Cora is magical squid ink that was once used to imprison Rumplestiltskin himself. A jar of it is hidden in his cell beneath Snow White and Prince Charming’s castle. Henry tries to relay the message in the netherworld, but the flames are too much and Aurora is suddenly pulled away.

    Back in The Enchanted Forest, Mulan is shaking Aurora awake as they are being attacked by reanimated villagers! The four women fight off the attackers, but Aurora is captured. Meeting her in the cell in the island encampment, Cora tells Aurora that, for a little cooperation, she could recover Prince Phillip’s soul from The Wraith, but Aurora is not so easily bought. While Emma, Mary Margaret and Mulan come looking for her, a raven delivers the message that Cora will trade the compass for Aurora’s life. Little does Cora know, Captain Hook has snuck into Aurora’s cell, freeing her and gaining her trust. She sends the young Princess back to meet her friends, seemingly in hopes of keeping his original deal with Emma. Meanwhile, Mary Margaret decides that they should use some of Mulan’s sleeping powder to put her into a deep sleep so she can try to talk to Henry. Having once been under the sleeping curse before, that shouldn’t be too hard for her.

    When Henry awakens from his latest attempt with terrible burns on his arm, David and Regina refuse to send him back to finish the job. Mr. Gold insists it’s necessary and David agrees, so he says he’ll go instead. Regina and Mr. Gold brew up a sleeping curse and David must undergo it the old fashioned way—with the needle of a spinning wheel. His hope is to give Mary Margaret the information she needs so she can come back and wake him up with True Love’s Kiss, but it’s a big risk. When he’s under the curse, he first arrives in a dark, empty room. Using a charm from Rumplestiltskin, he’s able to find his way into the red, fiery room Henry had been in, and finds Mary Margaret waiting for him. He gallantly fights his way through the flames to her, but in the netherworld, they can’t touch. He tells his beloved wife about the squid ink, but then Mary Margaret realizes what’s happened. David will be trapped there until she finds a way home to awaken him. And if she fails to defeat Cora and get home at all, he’ll be trapped there forever!

    Mary Margaret awakens, panicked now that her husband’s life is on the line as well. Emma calms her down, but they both realize Mulan has left. She’s taken the compass to trade to Cora! Emma and Mary Margaret chase after Mulan, stopping her in the woods not far from the island encampment. Suddenly, Aurora appears, explaining how Captain Hook let her go. She suddenly seems to know just what to say to calm everyone down, and that’s because the words aren’t hers—they’re Cora’s! Captain Hook somehow took the Princess’ heart and gave it to Cora as a gift. Now Cora and Hook have complete power over Sleeping Beauty and will use her as a means to stop the others and get the compass. Then it will be on to Storybrooke and a mother-daughter reunion that certainly won’t end with “happily ever after.”

    Pre-Air Info:



    ***pics share by SpoilerTV


    ***Thx to ABC Publicity (and Spoiler TV for the share)
    Episode 2:08 into the Deep Press release:


    CORA ATTEMPTS TO STEAL THE COMPASS TO LOCATE THE ENTRANCE TO STORYBROOKE, AND REGINA AND MR. GOLD MUST PUT DAVID’S LIFE IN JEOPARDY SO THAT HE CAN CONTACT MARY MARGARET ACROSS THE LANDS TO GIVE HER SOME VITAL INFORMATION, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

    “Into the Deep” – Cora does everything in her power to steal the compass away from Mary Margaret and Emma in her quest to find the entrance to Storybrooke. Meanwhile, in order to protect Henry from further danger, Regina and Mr. Gold must put David’s life in jeopardy in an attempt to put him in contact with Mary Margaret across the lands to give her vital information that could help her and Emma return through the portal back to Storybrooke, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 25 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

    “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

    Guest starring are Barbara Hershey as Cora, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Beverley Elliott as Granny, Sarah Bolger as Aurora and Jamie Chung as Mulan.

    ”Into the Deep” was written by Kalinda Vazquez & Daniel T. Thomsen and directed by Ron Underwood.


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    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:51 pm by Ranna156

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:
    rra615 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I thought about this - but then how does true love's kiss free him?

    Snow white will find a way back to SB and she'll kiss him - it works both ways i imagine

    How will he control the environment? Will Henry give him the necklace? If so, how will Henry be safe? I thought the world was just for those who HAD been under the curse and not those currently under it? Have we confirmed Snow has had this dream? It's all still loose. I think Henry and Aurora keep communicating for them.

    Maybe if he subjects himself to the Curse and SW can get to that dream world true loves kiss will work there?

    OR I think it is totally possible that Rump & Regina make a 'new sleeping curse' that is timed. That it doesn't necessarily need to be broken by TLK...however it could be risky as it hasn't been tested before and that is where all this risk and sacrifice talk come from.


    I could see Henry giving him the necklace or Rump giving him a new/different necklace. but good question either way.

    I think what Gold/Rumple told Regina was something like this: ***When you are under the curse you go to a Netherworld (where this dream is) and sometimes after the curse while in sleep you find your way back to it***

    So I think that confirms that while under the curse you will definitely be in this 'Netherworld'. Getting back there after you 'wake up from the curse' seems to be a shortlived side affect. Snow said she had nightmares for months afterwards. No she never confirmed if she had the same dream or was in the same room...but perhaps there are many rooms in this Netherworld...maybe it takes you to your 'biggest fear' type of room and Henry & Aurora share a fear of fire?

    I think Henry & Aurora also keep communicating however I also think PC might subject himself to a new timed sleeping curse hoping to communicate with Snow...but maybe not. Its very open and they are really building to a good midseason finale i think! Wink
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:04 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    rra615 wrote:
    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I thought about this - but then how does true love's kiss free him?

    Snow white will find a way back to SB and she'll kiss him - it works both ways i imagine

    How will he control the environment? Will Henry give him the necklace? If so, how will Henry be safe? I thought the world was just for those who HAD been under the curse and not those currently under it? Have we confirmed Snow has had this dream? It's all still loose. I think Henry and Aurora keep communicating for them.
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    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:59 pm by rra615

    obsessedwithOUAT wrote:I thought about this - but then how does true love's kiss free him?

    Snow white will find a way back to SB and she'll kiss him - it works both ways i imagine
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:57 pm by obsessedwithOUAT

    Ranna156 wrote:where did you see it that he sacrifices his life?

    If anything i would think he would subject himself to the sleeping curse...not sacrifice his life...but maybe that is a risk...

    I thought about this - but then how does true love's kiss free him?
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    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:24 pm by rra615

    maybe thats what it is. i thought it said sacrifice his life but it could've just said sacrifice
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:29 pm by Ranna156

    where did you see it that he sacrifices his life?

    If anything i would think he would subject himself to the sleeping curse...not sacrifice his life...but maybe that is a risk...
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    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:28 pm by rra615

    very true. i need to rewatch last weeks and last nights episodes so i'll try to listen carefully.

    it does say in one of the coming episodes that PC sacrifices his life to communicate w/ MM but it could start w/ the nightmares.

    yeah the dream catcher will probably come into play
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:25 pm by Ranna156

    i would have to rewatch but i am pretty sure all she said was that she also had nightmares and that PC would light a candle to 'keep them away' or something...similar to what a dream catcher does...

    hmm maybe that dream catcher will come into play if Neal comes to SB?
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    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:21 pm by rra615

    i thought Snow said she had the same nightmare with the fire and red room and that the candle that PC lights to help it go away

    the room in the dream kind of resembled the place where all the wolves were
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:07 pm by Ranna156

    I don't think she said she had the same nighmare did she? She just said she had nightmares...also looks like this dream place is an actual place entered through the 'dream' or sleep state.

    I definitely think that is how they will start to communicate...but I think Charming might go a step further to try and get there as well!
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    Post Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:48 am by rra615

    i think they communicate through henry and aurora - now we know they can talk in their nightmares

    makes me wonder though, snow said that after she broke from the sleeping curse she had the same nightmare. i wonder who she was seeing.
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:28 pm by Ranna156

    or here is what was said about the sacrifice:

    TV Guide's recent spoiler scoop hinted heavily at lines of communication opening up between Snow and Charming despite being in separate worlds


    When asked the question directly, TV Guide's Natalie Adrams revealed the following answer:


    "It's true. The star-crossed lovers will find a way, but like everything in these worlds, it comes with a price. "They find a direct line of communication that requires a great risk," Ginnifer Goodwin says. "There's something very tragic about the fact that the risk that's taken is potentially a great sacrifice that is made in order to get Emma and Snow White home. There's something really beautiful about the selflessness that is necessary to communicate."

    so going with in child of the moon Grumpy finds something in the mines...still thinking it might have something to do with the coffin...

    Then Henry & Aurora realize they are seeing each other...

    Charming goes to Gold & Regina for help...he wants to enter teh room as well. So I think that apple turnover is still around or maybe Regina & Gold come up with a 'new' sleeping curse that is 'timed'...but the risk is they aren't sure that it will work and/or that Charming will wake up...
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:21 pm by Ranna156

    I wonder if Charming subjects himself to the curse and enters the 'redrum' (redroom) if Snow can enter through her dreams and wake him up...

    another thought was that I thought Ginny indicated there will be others who sacrifice as well to ensure they can connect...so maybe she just means that Aurora and Henry subject themselves to the nightmare to try and talk with each other...hmmm
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:50 pm by Ranna156

    Ranna156 wrote:Can't WAIT! Wonder if they will meet in their dreams or if Charming is going to fall under the curse deliberately so that he can 'meet' Snow in his dreams!

    Ranna156 wrote:
    Something is up with that color red though and fire too I think. Also a room with no doors and no windows...look up maybe?...or down?...a pit maybe? or maybe its just means that you can only enter that room if you have been affected by the sleeping curse and so you enter it through the dream...???

    just putting these in all the 'applicable' places so I don't lose it! Wink

    Note to self: Originally in the sleeping curse topic!
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:49 pm by Ranna156

    Ranna156 wrote:Can't WAIT! Wonder if they will meet in their dreams or if Charming is going to fall under the curse deliberately so that he can 'meet' Snow in his dreams!

    Ranna156 wrote:
    Something is up with that color red though and fire too I think. Also a room with no doors and no windows...look up maybe?...or down?...a pit maybe? or maybe its just means that you can only enter that room if you have been affected by the sleeping curse and so you enter it through the dream...???

    just putting this in all the 'applicable' places so I don't lose it! Wink

    note to self....found in the sleeping curse topic!
    eclectic1

    Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:20 am by eclectic1

    The more I think about it...the more I feel we'll find out about the 'side affects' of the sleeping curse in this episode.

    I think when it's said that David's life is put in jeopardy, I think they use the sleeping curse on him so he can communicate to Snow about the portal location.

    The writers say we'll find out about it "soon" and, based on the above episode writeup...I can see where this might fit into the 'scheme of things' for this.

    "Into the Deep" referencing the "subconscious"??? Cool
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    Post Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:27 pm by rra615

    by the way she says theres a sacrifice and its selfless makes me think that either mulan or aurora sacrifices their lives to send them back
    Ranna156

    Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:34 pm by Ranna156

    Ranna156 wrote:haha obsessed i just saw that:

    TV Guide's recent spoiler scoop hinted heavily at lines of communication opening up between Snow and Charming despite being in separate worlds


    When asked the question directly, TV Guide's Natalie Adrams revealed the following answer:


    "It's true. The star-crossed lovers will find a way, but like everything in these worlds, it comes with a price. "They find a direct line of communication that requires a great risk," Ginnifer Goodwin says. "There's something very tragic about the fact that the risk that's taken is potentially a great sacrifice that is made in order to get Emma and Snow White home. There's something really beautiful about the selflessness that is necessary to communicate."

    grrr....i wish they would tell us already! I wonder if it has something to do with what they find down in the mine...and then that brings me back to the coffin...

    Ok i am officially back to they find her coffin and it was made from diamonds (like in the original story)...and they try to use the coffin as a way to communicate/bring them home and the sacrifice is Sneezy still won't remember who he is...

    DUNK SNEEZY! ;0
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:45 am by Ranna156

    or i wonder if it has something to do with eating that 'sleeping cursed turnover'...
    Ranna156

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:44 am by Ranna156

    haha obsessed i just saw that:

    TV Guide's recent spoiler scoop hinted heavily at lines of communication opening up between Snow and Charming despite being in separate worlds


    When asked the question directly, TV Guide's Natalie Adrams revealed the following answer:


    "It's true. The star-crossed lovers will find a way, but like everything in these worlds, it comes with a price. "They find a direct line of communication that requires a great risk," Ginnifer Goodwin says. "There's something very tragic about the fact that the risk that's taken is potentially a great sacrifice that is made in order to get Emma and Snow White home. There's something really beautiful about the selflessness that is necessary to communicate."

    grrr....i wish they would tell us already! I wonder if it has something to do with what they find down in the mine...and then that brings me back to the coffin...
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:39 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    http://www.onceuponatimefans.co.uk/apps/blog/show/19663349-lines-of-communication
    obsessedwithOUAT

    Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:04 am by obsessedwithOUAT

    I wonder if they really do or if it is someone posing as Snow. The writers tend to give red herrings so at this point who knows?
    Ranna156

    Post Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:06 pm by Ranna156

    with that key that MM is wearing around her neck I wonder if it will open something...something maybe left behind in Rumplestiltskin's house...and maybe it will be something that they can communicate through/with.

    I have a feeling we might see that crystal ball come into play sooner rather than later so i wonder if that will be what Snow uses...
    Ranna156

    Post Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:27 am by Ranna156

    then there is that coffin...really getting curious as to how they are going to communicate with each other...i think it will be something we have seen...hmm
    Ranna156

    Post Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:44 pm by Ranna156

    So i remember seeing in one of E's spoilers something about Charming and Snow will find a way to communicate with each other.

    Wondering what it will be and am wondering if it might have something to do with Emma's blanket...it went through the wardrobe too...

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